Oppositori siriani ammettono la presenza di gruppi armati

[Canaglia]

Syrian opposition admits armed insurgents are operating on fringe of uprising against Assad regime
Syria's opposition has admitted that armed insurgents are operating on the fringes of the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad, raising fears that extremists could take the country into civil war.
A number of activists at the forefront of the civilian protest movement in Syria confirmed that a bloody attack on government troops in the city of Hama last week was almost certainly the work of extremists involved in the insurgency against US forces in Iraq.
The Assad regime has claimed that more than 400 government soldiers and members of the security forces have been killed since the uprising began in mid-March.
While it is almost impossible to prove the extent of the death toll, there is growing evidence that violent elements pledging allegiance to the opposition have carried out well armed and carefully co-ordinated attacks against government troops since as long ago as April.
It is far from clear which groups are behind such attacks.
Although the vast majority of the protesters appear to be peaceful, more radical members of Syrian society with grievances against the regime, ranging from Muslim fundamentalists to secular militants and opportunists, have made common cause with the opposition.

Ausama Monajed, a leading Syrian dissident, sought to downplay the size of armed groups identifying with the opposition, while acknowledging that the problem was growing.
"You cannot expect even a peaceful revolution to be 100 per cent peaceful," he said.
"Now the opposition has to deal with both the brutality of the regime and the stupidity of a few people who don't understand that this has to be kept peaceful."
Apart from the more extremists groups, a number of protesters have also taken up arms to defend themselves against the regime's relentless slaughter of unarmed civilians. More than 100 people were killed in Hama alone last week after tanks reportedly shelled residential areas of the city, according to the opposition.
Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, on Thursday accused the Syrian security forces of killing more than 2,000 people since the uprising began, the overwhelming number of them civilians.
"The main aim is the keep the uprising as peaceful as possible, but the longer this goes on, the harder it is to control people on the street as people get frustrated and start to question the dynamics of non-violent revolution," Mr Monajed said.
"We can't control it but we urge people not to do it. The regime is desperate for us to fall into its trap of sectarianism or violence."
The opposition has been desperate to minimise any suggestion that the protest movement, which is largely drawn from Syria's Sunni Arab majority, is directing its anger against Mr Assad's privileged Alawite Shia minority.

But sectarian tensions are widely believed to exist, although the opposition has frequently edited out footage of anti-Alawite chants by protesters from the videos it regularly posts to the internet, according to International Crisis Group, a respected think-tank.
Until this week, many in the opposition had also constantly tried to blame the deaths of soldiers on their own commanders seeking retribution against those who refused to shoot unarmed protesters.
But this policy of denial has changed after footage, broadcast repeatedly on Syrian state television showed the bloodied corpses of soldiers being tossed from a bridge near Hama last week. The grisly pictures showed the muddied waters of the Orontes River crimson as they land with a sickening splash. For days, many in the Syrian opposition dismissed the images as regime propaganda designed to sully the image of the civilian uprising and distract from the massacre his forces have unleashed in Hama.
Some activists tried to insist that the footage was old, filmed during clashes in the town of Jisr al-Shughur earlier in the Summer.
But, after satellite imagery and other evidence emerged to show that the incident did indeed take place near Hama, the opposition has been forced to come clean. "This act was carried out by Syrian fighters who have come back from Iraq," an activist in Damascus said. "We can't control them and we are very disturbed by this because ultimately it plays into the government's hands."
To the fury of the United States, Syria has long been accused of playing a major role in the insurgency against US troops in Iraq and the government in Baghdad, both by arming and funding various militias and by providing fighters.
Different arms of the Syrian security network funded different parts of the insurgency, arming Shia, Sunni, Islamist and Baathist militias in the hope of widening the chaos in Iraq, according to opposition activists.
Now, they say, these insurgents are back in Syria — allegedly allowed back in by the government in order to discredit the opposition — and are fighting alongside Muslim fundamentalist groups. Others suggest they are being funded by Mr Assad's estranged uncle Rifa'at, who lives in exile in London but is thought to be looking for an opportunity to seize power, activists say.
The first attack against the military appears to have taken place in April, when nine soldiers were killed on a bridge on the outskirts of the restive town of Banias.
According to Joshua Landis, a prominent Syria analyst whose wife's cousin was among the dead, the soldiers were killed after a carefully planned ambush by unknown gunmen on two of their lorries. Video footage that has emerged appears to bear this out. More images suggest that the same happened in Jisr al-Shughur, where the regime claims more than 100 soldiers were killed. One video shows a large group of soldiers taking a break inside a building, the next shows their bodies strewn across rooms and a corridor inside the building and littering the ground outside.


Syrian opposition admits armed insurgents are operating on fringe of uprising against Assad regime - Telegraph

[Milanista]

Credo proprio che anche qua si stia assistendo ad un complotto, temo che forze straniere stiano solo e soltanto cercando di rovesciare Assad, sfruttando, traviando e corrompendo parte della popolazione ed andando a braccetto con gli estremisti, esattamente quello che stanno tentando di fare con Gheddafi (e pure col buon Chavez ci provarono....) Tutto ciò per creare disordini e/o mettere al posto dei vari leader qualche fantoccio a loro più favorevole.

[Defender]

Vai Bashar ammazzali tutti.

[Canaglia]

Credo proprio che anche qua si stia assistendo ad un complotto, temo che forze straniere stiano solo e soltanto cercando di rovesciare Assad, sfruttando, traviando e corrompendo parte della popolazione, esattamente quello che stanno tentando di fare con Gheddafi (e pure col buon Chavez ci provarono....) Tutto ciò per creare disordini e/o mettere al posto dei vari leader qualche fantoccio a loro più favorevole.

Oltretutto è interessante come questi cyber-attivisti sappiano sempre rigirare la frittata in loro favore: adesso sì, ammettono che effettivamente le bande armate ci sono, ma sono quelli che Assad avrebbe lasciato andare a combattere in Iraq e che poi sono tornati in Siria.
Insomma, anche così trovano un modo per rafforzare la propaganda anti-siriana (Assad come "sponsor del terrorismo").
Questa gente sa lavorare dannatamente bene con la propaganda e con i mezzi di comunicazione, sono stati chiaramente addestrati da qualcuno

[Defender]

Oltretutto è interessante come questi cyber-attivisti sappiano sempre rigirare la frittata in loro favore: adesso sì, ammettono che effettivamente le bande armate ci sono, ma sono quelli che Assad avrebbe lasciato andare a combattere in Iraq e che poi sono tornati in Siria.
Insomma, anche così trovano un modo per rafforzare la propaganda anti-siriana (Assad come "sponsor del terrorismo").
Questa gente sa lavorare dannatamente bene con la propaganda e con i mezzi di comunicazione, sono stati chiaramente addestrati da qualcuno

Non volevo deluderti, ma è dal 1996 in Slovacchia che si vantano apertamente del supporto tecnico "inter"nazionale.
A questo proposito c'è un interessante articolo nell'ultimo di east, che consiglio vivamente.

[Morfeo]

Hai un link? da queste parti east non arriva e poi costa 12 piotte

[Defender]

Hai un link? da queste parti east non arriva e poi costa 12 piotte

Purtroppo hanno fatto la scelta di non essere online con gli articoli, mi hanno regalato l'abbonamento.
Sostanzialmente rimarcavano come il "metodo delle rivoluzioni colorate" fosse operativo già dal 1996 in Slovacchia e come, pur nelle sue varie versioni e nei suoi vari adattamenti al contesto, rimanesse sostanzialmente il medesimo dispositivo. Poi ha analizzato brevemente le caratteristiche dei movimenti arabi e ha concluso che non è esattamente la stessa cosa, ma che comunque le "rivoluzioni colorate" hanno sia un futuro davanti a sé, sia dei limiti ambientali.
Magari, visto che non è lunghissimo, chiedo il permesso di copiarlo agli admin. Se me lo concedono, lo ricopio.
C'era anche un "interessante" articolo sui fascisti serbi, che volevo però sottoporre a Fenris...

[hidetoshi777]

sarebbe cosa buona e giusta, fare il culo anche a quest'altro delinquente, dopo gheddy jackson.

Purtroppo ciò non avverrà, ma per il momento ci accontentiamo

[subiectus]

Non ci vedo nulla di strano, Bashar Assad non è simpatico a certi potentati e questi cercano di abbatterlo, mica è detto che per fare questo lo si deba sfidare a singolar tenzone con tanto di padrini.
Inoltre un certo malcontento endogeno in Siria penso ci sia.

[Haxel]

Non ci vedo nulla di strano, Bashar Assad non è simpatico a certi potentati e questi cercano di abbatterlo, mica è detto che per fare questo lo si deba sfidare a singolar tenzone con tanto di padrini.
Inoltre un certo malcontento endogeno in Siria penso ci sia.

altrimenti queste proteste non ci sarebbero proprio state