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    Citazione Originariamente Scritto da anticomunista Visualizza Messaggio
    quindi solo lavoro manuale?

    è questa la ricetta economica per far soldi??

    Secondo il tuo pensiero paesi a basso tasso di automazione fanno soldi a palate
    la mia ricetta?? non hai visto il titolo del 3d e le faccine?
    La verità produce effetti anche quando non può essere pronunciata.

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    Si però...voglio capire perchè la teoria del plusvalore vi sembra così banalmente ridicola.
    A me pare che spieghi molto bene il fenomeno della caduta del saggio di profitto, almeno rimanendo nell'ottica dell'economia classica.
    non è la teoria in sé che rende ridicolo il post (ma discutere dell'attualità del marxismo è argomento un po' complesso per un forum), piuttosto la visione mistica e quasi sacrale che rende ridicolo OGNI testo.

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    non è la teoria in sé che rende ridicolo il post (ma discutere dell'attualità del marxismo è argomento un po' complesso per un forum), piuttosto la visione mistica e quasi sacrale che rende ridicolo OGNI testo.
    eh beh è l'ultimo dei grandi profeti di Israele che si scagliano contro l'idolatria



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    Parlando di castronerie ....... che ne pensate?

    The 2008 shock was certainly violent, but the reactions of the system, countries and central banks with their bailouts on an unprecedented scale, managed to hide the worst consequences: downgrading of the West in general and the United States in particular, a forced cleanup of the economy, a heavy fall from an artificial standard of living, mass unemployment, the beginning of social unrest… have been able to be partly neglected in favour of recovery hopes kept alive by irresponsible policies diverting liquidity to the banking systems and stock exchanges. Sadly, whilst the world drugged itself, global issues weren’t addressed… five lost years: the building is even less strong than before the crisis; the US “solution” orchestrated by the Fed, that everyone else left it to manage to take the time to dress their own wounds, has been to put out with gasoline the fire which they themselves lit. It’s not surprising then that it is still the US, pillar of the world before, refusing to fall in line, with their faithful Japanese and British floats, which is once again igniting the world situation. And this time, we shouldn’t rely on bankrupt countries to save the situation: they are on their knees following the first shock in 2008. Therefore, it’s actually a second world crisis which is looming, once again caused by the United States. Ultimately this five-year period will have been nothing other than taking a step back to enter into an even bigger crisis, which we have called “the crisis squared”.

    Layout of the full article:
    1. A situation which is now out of control
    2. A second US crisis
    3. The impacts of the second shock
    4. Different players' strategies
    5. Failure of international institutions
    6. Urgent recommendations

    This public announcement contains sections 1 and 2


    A situation which is now out of control

    The illusions which have still blinded the last remaining optimists are in the process of dissipating. In previous GEAB issues we have already laid out the world economy’s grim picture. Since then the situation has got worse. The Chinese economy confirms its slowdown (1) as well as Australia (2), emerging countries’ currencies are disconnecting (3), bond interest rates are rising, UK salaries are continuing to fall (4), riots are affecting Turkey and even peaceful Sweden (5), the Eurozone is still in recession (6), the news filtering out of the United States is no longer cheerful (7)…

    Nervousness is now clearly palpable on all financial markets where the question is no longer knowing when the next record will be but succeeding in getting out soon enough before the stampede. The Nikkei has fallen more than 20% in three weeks during which there have been three sessions with losses exceeding 5%. So, the contagion has now reached the “standard” indices such as the stock exchanges, interest rates, and currency exchange rates… the last bastions still controlled by the central banks and, therefore, totally distorted as our team has repeatedly explained.





    Nikkei 225 Index, 02/11/2012-13/06/2013. The dizzy rise is due to the BoJ's plan, the dizzy fall to current uncertainties Source : Les Échos.

    In Japan this situation is the result of the over-the-top sized quantitative easing programme undertaken by the central bank. The Yen’s fall has brought about strong inflation in the price of imported goods (particularly oil). The huge swings in the Japanese stock exchange and currency is destabilising the whole of global finance. But the implementation of the Bank of Japan’s programme is so new that its effects are still much less pronounced than those of the Fed’s quantitative easing. It’s primarily the Fed which is responsible for all the current bubbles: real estate in the United States (8), stock exchange record highs, bubbles in and destabilisation of emerging countries (9), etc.

    It’s also thanks to it, or rather because of it, that the virtual economy has got going again with even greater intensity and that the necessary balancing hasn’t taken place. The same methods are producing the same effects (10), an increased virtualisation of the economy is leading us to a second crisis in five years, for which the United States is once again responsible. The central banks can’t hold the global economy together indefinitely; at the moment they are losing control.





    A second US crisis

    If the months of April-May, with a great deal of media hype, seem to agree with the US-UK-Japanese method of monetary easing (to put it mildly) against the Euroland method of reasoned austerity, for several weeks now the champions of all-finance have had a little more difficulty in claiming victory. The IMF, terrified by the global impact of the economic slowdown in Europe, doesn’t know what else to come up with to force Europeans to continue spending and make deficits explode again: even empty boutique World must continue to give the impression that it’s still in business, and Europe isn’t playing the game.

    But the toxic effects of central bank operations in Japan, the United States and the United Kingdom now demolish the argument (or rather propaganda) touting the success of the “other method”, supposed to allow recovery in Japan, the US and the United Kingdom (incidentally, the latter has never even been mentioned).

    The currently developing second crisis could have been avoided if the world had taken note that the United States, structurally incapable of reforming itself, was unable to implement other methods than those which had led to the 2008 crisis. Like the irresponsible “too big to fail” banks, the “systemically” irresponsible countries should have been placed under supervision from 2009 as suggested from the GEAB n° 28 (October 2008). Unfortunately the institutions of global governance have proved to be completely ineffective and powerless in managing the crisis. Only regional good sense has been able to put it in place; the international arena producing nothing, everyone began to settle their problems in their part of the world.

    The other crucial reform advocated (11) since 2009 by the LEAP/E2020 team focused on taking a completely new look at the international monetary system. In 40 years of US trade imbalances and the volatility of its currency, the dollar as the pillar of the international monetary system has been the carrier of all the United States’ colds to the rest of the world, and this destabilising pillar is now at the heart of the global problem because the United States is no longer suffering from a cold but bubonic plague.

    Absent having reformed the international monetary system in 2009, a second crisis is coming. With it comes a new window of opportunity to reform the international monetary system at the G20 in September (12) and one almost hopes that the shock happens by then to force an agreement on this subject, otherwise the summit risks taking place too soon to gain everyone’s support.

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    Bisogna urgentemente dichiarare le risorse naturali e artificiali del pianeta l’eredità comune di tutta l’Umanità per poterle impiegare democraticamente nell’interesse di tutti.
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    Dice già una castroneria di partenza, che il costo del robot sia gratis.

    Come se non consumasse energia, o non avesse bisogno di personale che faccia manutenzione, non avesse bisogno di ricambi o semplicemente di ammortamento.


    ........ se non bestemmio oggi .......


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    Questa è ECONOMIA,ma nessun economista sa il perchè e come evtarla,l'economia insegnata alle università tutte str....te teoria, nulla di reale solo fantasie idiote
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    Lasciate perdere gli economisti non capiscono nulla del mondo industriale/produttivo, i + ricchi industriali del mondo non hanno studiato economia,esempio bill gates ,ha creato microsoft,e perchè MONTI emerito prof.di economia alla bocconi non ha creato nulla nel mondo produttivo?studiare economia all'università è un cretinata pazzesca.valore,plus valora,etc.etc non servono per creare una fiat,audi,porsche, mia nipote laureata in economia e commercio,è stata assunta da uno studio di ragioneria dopo 1 mese licenziata non capiva nulla sulla gestione dei bilanci delle imprese gestiti dallo studio, i ragionieri ne sanno molto ma molto di più

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    HO letto tutto, un mucchio di cretinate assurde per il 2013,e anni futuri

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    E questo da do sbuca ?


 

 
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