Ciò che Rudolf Steiner volle sempre mantenere nascosto

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Crowley si adoperò per l'avvicinamento del rito di Memphis-Misraim all'OTO e ne divenne poi il Gran Maestro. Anche Rudolf Steiner aderì all'OTO, ma volle nascondere questa sua affiliazione, forse per gli aspetti tantrici e apparentemente in contrasto con gli aspetti mistici che lo caratterizzarono verso i suoi seguaci. Quando morì, probabilmente per sua volontà, fu sepolto con le insegne dell'OTO, dato che ormai la sua opera terrena era conclusa. Due figure fondamentali del milieu magico europeo e mondiale, appunto Steiner e Crowley, erano legati anche se le due figure furono da sempre apparentemente in contrasto erano legate da un cammino spirituale che accomuna tutti gli ermetisti di ogni luogo e di ogni epoca!

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Rudolf Steiner [....] probabilmente per sua volontà, fu sepolto con le insegne dell'OTO, dato che ormai la sua opera terrena era conclusa.

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Ci sarebbero le foto, comunque è risaputo e viene dato per assodato.

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Negli ambienti antroposofici mi pare si dica che il dottore non sia stato membro dell'OTO, e a testimonianza di questo si porta un volume di Peter R. Koenig, Der Grosse Theodor Reuss Reader. Io però non l'ho mai letto.. ..

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Steiner non voleva si sapesse della sua apparteneza all'OTO dato che alti ufficiali nazisti ne erano affiliati, anche lo stesso Crowley era legato sia ai servizi segreti nazisti che inglesi. Hitler applica l'agricoltura biologica seguendo le tracce dell'antroposofia anche se nutre una certa avversione per l'uomo Steiner!

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Hiltler pupazzo di Crowley al fine di realizzare un bagno di sangue annunciatore del nuovo Eone...

Ma l'Alba Dorata corrisponde alla Coscienza Cristica.

Crowley ha sbagliato via.

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"Dai loro frutti dunque li riconoscerete" (Mt 7,13-20)


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Steiner non voleva si sapesse della sua apparteneza all'OTO dato che alti ufficiali nazisti ne erano affiliati, anche lo stesso Crowley era legato sia ai servizi segreti nazisti che inglesi. Hitler applica l'agricoltura biologica seguendo le tracce dell'antroposofia anche se nutre una certa avversione per l'uomo Steiner!

L'agricoltura antroposofica è detta biodinamica, non biologica.

Dal sito di Koenig:

Rudolf Steiner
Q. Did Rudolf Steiner know about all this?
A: Although Steiner quoted in 1904 from a 1903 manifesto called
"About Our Order" Kellner and Reuss, it is extremely unlikely that
he knew either about the O.T.O. or sex-magic. This manifesto was
against evoking spirits, and spiritualism in general, which also
happened to be Steiner's view. Indeed in 1903 neither sex-magic
nor the O.T.O. had been dreamt of; Kellner was still alive, and
he was interested in Yoga rather than magic. Reuss himself only
spoke once in print about "the divine act of procreation", and
that was in the 'Oriflamme' in 1906, in August of which year
Steiner broke with Reuss. "Sex-magic" as an expression appeared
for the first time in the December 1906 'Oriflamme', and then
not again until 1912 when the O.T.O. became Reuss's public
front.
Q: On 27 March 1906, Reuss wrote a letter to Steiner appointing him
as a 33° and a 95°. Did Steiner get these degrees earlier on 24
November 1905, or did Reuss simply appoint him through the post?
A: I assume the latter is true.
Q: In his letter to Sellin, Steiner expressed total disapproval of
Reuss and ignorance of his activities. Is there any evidence or
proof that Steiner — apart from his MM membership — ever had any
contact with Reuss?
A. No.
Q: Why didn't Steiner try and stop Reuss throwing ridiculous
dignities and titles at him?
A: I would guess that this was part of Steiner's policy of
deliberately ignoring Reuss.
Q: What lies behind the story told by Alice Sprengel, that Steiner
was supposed to have torn up the diploma that made him an O.T.O.
member?
A: This becomes clear in the proper context. Alice Sprengel nursed
hopes that Steiner would marry her; when he jilted her in 1915,
she was disillusioned, and transferred her esoteric loyalties to
Reuss. Frau Sprengel's relationship with Steiner is shown in her
letters to him, which can be found in Volume 253 of Steiner's
"Collected Works".
Q: What did Frau Sprengel do in the O.T.O.?
A: I refer you to my book "The O.T.O. Phenomenon", where the story
is told in detail. Reuss gave her an authorisation to set up
O.T.O. lodges, and made her a member of the O.T.O.'s "executive
council of three" in 1921. The other two members of the "three"
were also women, which presumably started tongues wagging in the
moral climate of those days. After Reuss died in 1923, almost
everyone in the O.T.O. was jockeying to become his heir, but
nobody knew which of his various Orders could be passed on, or
even if Reuss had named his successor. So far, not one document
has been found which unambiguously states who Reuss's heir was,
although there have been several claimants to the title. This
has meant from that day to this that an endless round of
plotting and scheming is part of every O.T.O.'s stock-in trade,
in an effort to prove that they alone are the 'real' O.T.O.;
something which started in the Swiss O.T.O. lodges Reuss had
left behind. Before World War Two, Frau Sprengel's Swiss branch
of the O.T.O. acted as a sort of 'exiles lodge' for occult
refugees from all over Europe, such as the notorious founder of
the German Fraternitas Saturni, Eugen Grosche.
It is quite conceivable that two dozen years after her
disappointment with Steiner, one sunny afternoon at her
headquarters in the sunny southern Swiss canton of Ticino, Frau
Sprengel (surrounded of course by her favourite followers)
suddenly 'remembered' Steiner's supposed O.T.O.
membership-certificate, which he had promptly torn to bits. She
then took good care to write down the wording of this
certificate from memory all those years later. As an old member
of the O.T.O. with a high degree, it is possible that she confused
Steiner's oath on joining the MM (dated 3 January 1906) with the
longer candidate's oath of Reuss's subsequent MM-O.T.O., which
she now shortened to "Alte und Primit. Ritus von M. u. M.
O.T.O." (Ancient and Primit[ive] Rite of M[emphis] a[nd]
M[israim O.T.O.). The abbreviations used are evidence that she
could have had an O.T.O. certificate to hand when 'remembering'
Steiner's supposed certificate — but also that she was in a
hurry, because such documents never use abbreviations. Nor did
Frau Sprengel's original note of what she recalled survive; only
a copy of it which came into the hands of a certain Gundula
Bader (later mixed up in Metzger's O.T.O.), who passed it on to
one Emil Bock. By way of yet another intermediary called Erich
Gabert, the copy eventually fetched up in the archives of
Steiner's Anthropsophical Society at the 'Goethenæum', and was
duly included in Steiner's immense "Collected Works", in Volume
265 on page 100. Therefore it can hardly be called a mysterious
business at all.
Q. What was behind Reuss's announcement of a forthcoming book about
'Sex in Theosophy and Anthroposophy, with the original pledges
of the leaders'?
A: I have to admit I haven't got the faintest idea.
Q: Was there ever personal or written contact between Aleister
Crowley and Rudolf Steiner?
A: I doubt it. Crowley did dedicate a poem to Steiner in 1944, and
mentioned him in a private letter dating from 1919 as being "in
relation with the O.T.O.," but mocked him for spouting "a lot of
drivel". This seems to mirror Crowley's wishful thinking. Today,
a lot of O.T.O. followers still believe that Steiner was a Grand
Master of the O.T.O.. But in its list of illustrious past Grand
Masters, Crowley's O.T.O. Manifesto of 1912 also mentions
Hermes, Dante, Ulrich von Hutten, Paracelsus, Goethe, Ludwig
II., Richard Wagner, Nietzsche, amongst others — and if Crowley
said it, these latter day O.T.O. members assume it must be true.
Still, if Crowley felt Steiner spouted drivel, it would be safe
to assume — if the two men had ever met — that the feeling would
have been mutual...

fonte: Ordo Templi Orientis — English  Aleister Crowley, Theodor Reuss

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Ho usato un termine generico per il semplice motivo che la legislazione europea riassume sotto il nome:"Agricoltura biologica" tutti i metodi di coltivazione che non prevedono l'uso di sostanze chimiche. In questo "universo" di metodologie esistono: l'agricoltura organica, omeopatica e anche la biodinamica ecc. Già nell'universo teosofico esistevano pratiche che prevedevano una agricoltura "bilogica". L'agricoltura biodinamica riprende antiche abitudini e al tempo si opponeva all'uso del Verde rame o solfato di rame in uso durante il medioevo per contrastare i danni alla vite della peronospora, e contrastato nell'agricoltura biodinamica.

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Le foto, come ho premesso, non le ho mai viste, ma vari autori menzionano il fatto. Personalmente credo che (anche se è duro ammetterlo) Steiner appartenesse all'OTO, difatti lo ha reso pubblico solo dopo la sua morte. Non credo che Crowley sia da considerare un mago negativo, era una persona di grande genialità e di grandioso sapere solo che è stato etichettato come esoterista pericoloso, forse per l'uso palese del sesso e della sessualità, meccanismo che hanno usato tutti gli iniziati di tutti i tempi! Anche Steiner lo possiamo etichettare come mago rosso! Ho una grande stima per Steiner come perCrowley!