I cimbri

[Dragonball (POL)]

From: "Bertil Haggman" <mvk575b@t...>
Date: Mon Apr 15, 2002 8:15 pm
Subject: The Cimbri et al



ANCIENT GERMANIC WARFARE - THE CIMBRI

1. Introduction

The migration of the Cimbrians from Jutland (the Cimbrian Peninsula) was a foreboding of the period of Great Migration in Europe. There is some controversy over the original home (German: Stammsitz) of the Cimbri but most Scandinavian researchers believe the Cimbrian people came from the province of Himmerland in northern Jutland (Denmark).
The Roman historian Tacitus wrote in his work Germania on the Cimbri (1):
"37. This same "sleeve" or peninsula of Germany is the home of the Cimbri (2), who dwell nearest the ocean - a small state today, but rich in memories.
Broad traces of their ancient fame is still extant - spacious encampments (3) on each bank (of the Rhine), by the circuit of which you can even today measure the multitudes and manual strength of the tribes and the evidences of that
mighty "trek".

Our city (Rome, note) was in its six hundred and fortieth year when the Cimbrian armies were first heard of...".

The main proof of the fact that the Cimbri originate in ancient Denmark is the well known language rule that the Nordic "h" in Latin becomes "c" and that this "c" is pronounced "k".
Greek historians named the people "kimbroi" or "kimmerioi". Around AD 700 Denmark was divided into counties ("herred" or "syssel"). According to Danish researchers the name of the county Himbersyssel is a change from "kimbrer" over "chimber" to "Himber".
On the migration trek southward the Cimbri were joined by the Teutones and the Ambrones. These peoples will not be treated here in more detail but there is also controversy over their origin but it is believed that theTeutones originate in the Danish county of Thy (Thiuth, Thyuth, Thyth) and the Latin word Teutones comes from the name of the county which is on the Danish North Sea coast northwest of Himbersyssel.
The Ambrones also fought with the Cimbri and are believed to
originate from the island of Amrum off the southwestern coast of
Jutland on the Danish-German border. Also the island of
Fehmern in the Baltic Sea between Denmark and Germany
(the island is in present day Germany) is mentioned as possible
original home. In Old Danish the island´s name was "Ymbrae" and a people called "ymbrer" was said to have lived there.

[Pippo III]

Dragon, già te l'ho detto che sei diventato un filino monotematico (giusto per usare un eufemismo) a me sorge il dubbio che a forza di stare con i lupi, o meglio con IL lupo, tu abbia imparato ad ululare........

Sa£udi serenissimi da Pippo III.

[Dragonball (POL)]

Se fare post sulle antiche popolazioni che invasero la Padania e la resero com'e' oggi,non e' parlare di Padania...allora non so cosa potrebbe essere.
Io parlo anche delle "grandi prodezze economiche" fatte da questo governo...eppure non le commenta mai nessuno

[Pippo III]

Bah drago, da quando hai cominciato a frequetare certi forum non sei più lo stesso
Una "leggera" ( ) predilezione per gli argomenti raziali mi pare innegabile. E se di per sè ciò non è male, il continuare, spesso con una visione storica alquanto discutibile, non aiuta certo la nostra causa (che non si base solamente, ne principalmente, su un discorso etnico) ma anzi presta il fianco a numerose strumentalizzazioni......insomma ripeto, non vorrei che la scuola del lupo t'avesse fatto male

Sa£udi serenissimi da Pippo III.

P.s: detto questo ognuno è libero di far ciò che vuole.

[asburgico]

beh in questo caso non mi pare ci sia alcun riferimento "razzista". Certo che con tutti gli scritti che circolano in lingua toscana sui Cimbri si poteva trovare di meglio.

[Dragonball (POL)]

Non mi interessa essere politically correct o considerato "razzista":la verita' va detta: il retaggio etnico della Padania e' molto diverso dal resto d'Italia.Ed e' questo che spiega tante,troppe differenze socio-economico-culturali tra Nord e Sud Italia,che a livello europeo NESSUN Paese ha.