L'ex cancelliere tedesco Schmidt:un errore aver preso milioni di lavoratori turchi

[Dragonball (POL)]

Turkish workers a mistake, claims Schmidt
By Hannah Cleaver in Berlin
(Filed: 25/11/2004)

Helmut Schmidt, the former German chancellor, has inflamed the country's debate on immigration by saying that multiculturalism can only work under authoritarian regimes, and that bringing millions of Turkish guest workers to Germany was a mistake.



"The concept of multiculturalism is difficult to make fit with a democratic society," he told the Hamburger Abendblatt newspaper.

He added that it had been a mistake that during "the early 1960s we brought guest workers from foreign cultures into the country".

Mr Schmidt, 85, who was the Social Democratic chancellor from 1974 until 1982, said that the problems resulting from the influx of mostly Turkish Gastarbeiter, or guest workers, had been neglected in Germany and the rest of Europe. They could be overcome only by authoritarian governments, he added, naming Singapore as an example.

Yet many would suggest that Mr Schmidt himself was at least partly to blame for the problems he was raising.

Safter Cinar, a spokesman for Berlin and Brandenburg's Turkish Association, said that bringing people into Germany was not the mistake, but refusing to call it immigration and failing to implement the necessary policies was. He said these errors were made during Mr Schmidt's chancellorship.

"When he is talking about mistakes, he is talking about his own mistakes," Mr Cinar said.

"They did not bring in the Gastarbeiter because they were feeling generous, it was an economic necessity.

"They may argue it was a mistake in 1973 when they put a halt on more Gastarbeiter coming in and another in 1974 when they allowed wives and families to join those who were here. It would have been possible, and legally feasible, to reduce numbers, to send back those who no longer had work.

"But if they are allowed to bring their families, that is immigration - and they didn't develop policies for that. And this was when Mr Schmidt was chancellor."

The Turkish population in Germany is the biggest outside of Turkey, numbering 2.3 million among Germany's 82 million population. There are a further 500,000 former Turkish citizens who have taken German citizenship. Germany is home to five million other non-Germans.

Mr Cinar gave warning that the discussion on integration and multiculturalism sparked in Europe by the murder in Holland of Theo van Gogh, and the resulting deterioration in community relations, was being carried out in a manner likely to alienate young Muslims more than ever. "The way that people are talking about it could well encourage young migrants to embrace Turkish nationalism and even Islamic extremism - or worse, both at the same time," he said.

"These are people who are born in Germany and only know Turkey from a couple of weeks holiday there, but are regarded in Germany as foreigners and disruptive elements. If they are assumed to be that way they will eventually decide to embrace it.

"Multiculturalism is not an option, it's not an ideology or a concept, it is a reality. We have many different cultures living in the same society and we have to do that with mutual respect."

Mr Cinar said that there were some values and concepts which should be taken as universal, and there were some people and groups which did not respect them.

"But not respecting those universal values is not a result of a multicultural society," he said.


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[Mitteleuropeo]

Ho letto l' articolo e lo vorrei commentare.

1. Bisogna rendersi conto che l' immigrazione in D ha avuto il suo apice intorno al 1970, appena conclusa l' avventura del '68, che, tra le altre piacevolezze, aveva ficcato nella testa della gente "die Einmaligkeit des deutschen Verbrechens" - l' unicita' del crimine tedesco. In quei tempi anche Brandt si inginocchiava al Ghetto di Varsavia. Da quel momento fu categoricamente scomunicato chiunque diceva qualcosa contro i non-tedeschi, che, anzi, dall' opinione ufficiale erano considerati "superiori", "piu' aperti" del Deutscher Michel. Consideriamo anche che il 56 % degli elettori in D sono donne, che il '68 le aveva "liberate" e che si dice(va) che i Turchi lo hanno piu' grosso e duro. I classici "voti del c***o", che bisognava catturare.

2. La Germania e' spesso vittima di slogan, che i media esaltano fino a divenire dogmi. Uno di questi e': Deutschland ist kein Einwanderungsland" - la Germania non e' un Paese d' immigrazione. Quando c'e' un dogma, in D non lo si discute (conosciamo certi esempi, no?), anche se palesemente falso. Quando nacque il dogma, la Germania era gia' il Paese europeo con piu' immigrati.
Fu trovata l' attenuante, altro dogma "wir haben Arbeiter geholt und sind Menschen gekommen" - abbiamo chiamato lavoratori e sono arrivati uomini.
Il significato era chiaro: si pensava che i Turchi dopo 5-6 anni se ne sarebbero tornati in patria, invece si trovavano tanto bene che si facevano raggiungere dalle famiglie. E qui i Turchi avevano ragione. E' semplicemente idiota credere che maschi turchi soli siano meglio di Turchi con famiglia: il maschio solo cerca il branco, si ubriaca e va a puttane. Con la cultura degli Eros Center, dove con 50 DM uno si passava una bella mezz'oretta, in pieno centro, e' chiaro che i maschi soli potevano far comodo solo alle prostitute e alle osterie presso le stazioni.

3. Quello che si e' dimenticato di fare, e' l' amalgamazione dei Turchi con i Tedeschi: Baviera a parte, i Turchi si sono impadroniti dei centri citta', delle vie dei negozi, dei caffe' in centro, della vita delle citta' dopo le 19, relegando i Tedeschi alle periferie. Gli unici Tedeschi che familiarizzano con i Turchi sono i barboni, i punker, i drogati, gli sbandati, i verdi in cerca di visibilita' e le donne con ormoni ad alti livelli. Tutta gente da cui il turco non ha nulla da imparare e che e' la prima a organizzare manifestazioni antiturche con certi slogans ("ein Tirke braucht nicht mehr zu wixen, bei Neckermann gibt's Futt in Bixen") - meglio non tradurre .

E' troppo tardi chiudere la stalla quando i buoi sono gia' scappati. Secondo me, per la Germania l' unica possibilita' e' di "costringere" i Turchi ad assimilarsi e di ostacolare certi kamikaze che vorrebbero turchizzare i Tedeschi. La cosa e' possibile, conosco un ingegnere turco (degna persona, colto), un' informatica turca (ora moglie del direttore - transilvano - della Deutsche Bank di Bukarest), persino la lettrice per i libri scientifici della Frankfurter Rundschau e' turca e parla un tedesco impeccabile.
Bisogna sradicarli dai chioschi e dai ghetti e mandarli a studiare a calci in culo. Con 2.5 Mio non esiste alternativa.