Perchè non votero' Lega alle Regionali.

[Padanik (POL)]

Ecco le motivazioni:
1) il fatto che la Lega prima dica una cosa (Andiamo da soli) e poi, non appena Silvio tiri fuori il libretto degli assegni, subito faccia dietrofront;
2) il fatto che la Lega ora sia alleata non solo con AN e Udc ma pure con il nuovo Psi di Bobo Craxi e frattaglie del vecchio pentapartito sempre piu' ingombranti;
3) il fatto che forse la Cdl candiderà alla presidenza della regione toscana la figlia di Craxi (appoggiata ovviamente anche dalla Lega);
4) il fatto che in politica estera (almeno nei palazzi) la Lega si sia oramai uniformata sul filo-atlantismo e sul filo-sionismo piu' becero e intransigente;
5) il fatto dell'impossibilità in questo esecutivo di realizzare neanche solo uno dei programmi leghisti (Devolution insabbiata, immigrati a go-go, telefoni verdi antirazzisti, ecc.).
6) il fatto che da me in Liguria la Lega appoggi il candidato della Cdl che ha veramente governato male in questi ultimi anni.

La Lega va punita.

Benche' il suo romanocentrismo e il suo meridionalismo mi diano sui nervi, alle regionali il mio voto andrà ad Alternativa Sociale.

Poi si vedrà.

[Padanik (POL)]

E nella foga mi sono dimenticato il punto peggiore: che molto probabilmente la Lega sarà pure alleata con i Radicali di Pannella...

[Maxadhego]

Originally posted by Padanik


La Lega va punita.

Benche' il suo romanocentrismo e il suo meridionalismo mi diano sui nervi, alle regionali il mio voto andrà ad Alternativa Sociale.

Poi si vedrà. [/B]

Alternativa sociale? Che cosa propongono, indipendenza, secessione, autonomia o cos'altro?
Si, è ora di fare gli alternativi!

[Padanik (POL)]

So di alzare un polverone con questo mio post, mi spiace, ma provo tanta rabbia. Mai piu' avrei pensato che delusione mi avrebbe portato a votare un partito che non fosse la Lega.
Purtroppo è avvenuto. Nel mio cuore rimango sempre etno-nazionalista, ma nella Lega attuale proprio non mi riconosco piu'.

[Guelfo Nero]

Sono certo che solleverà un polverone, caro Padanik. Io stesso ho discusso animatamente con amici leghisti (di lunga militanza) che meditano di astenersi o di votare AS.
Raccomando a tutti: discussione libera ma senza trascendere.

gUELFO nERO

[I'm Hate]

Mi fa piacere che padanik abbia preso coscienza
di cosa sia la lega,ma non illuderti AS,e' identica
se non peggio.
Lo vedrai quando al secondo turno faranno accordi
con cani e porci per 4 poltrone.
Si accettano scommesse!!!

Dimenticavo...e' ora che vi svegliate,la democrazia e'
questo,non ci sono ideali,non ci sono battaglie,solo
uomini corrotti,che fanno accordi sottobanco e non per
4 poltrone che useranno per riempirsi il portafogli,per
sistemare i parenti(ormai una religione,per lo meno
in italia) e cosa peggiore,per servire i poteri occulti.
Votando contribuite indirettamente al sostegno
della corrotta democrazia.
Fate voi..i fatti parlano

[I'm Hate]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100359/

[Der Wehrwolf]

Derech L'Ein Harod, Ha- (1990)
Directed by
Doron Eran

Writing credits
Amos Kenan (novel)
Rami Na'aman



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User Rating: 6.3/10 (8 votes)

Credited cast:
Ya'ackov Ayali
Rami Danon
Elki Jacobs
Alessandra Mussolini .... Liora
Tony Peck .... Saul Jordan
Ze'ev Shimshoni
Shlomo Tarshish
Arnon Zadok .... Mahmoud
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Also Known As:
Back to Freedom (video box title)
Freedom: The Voice of Ein-Harod (USA) (review title)
The Voice of Ein Harod
Runtime: Israel:91 min / USA:90 min
Country: Italy / Israel / USA
Language: Hebrew / Italian
Color: Color

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unsuccessful effort to liven Israeli SF circa the late 80's, 14 April 2004
Author: Lee Alon




Israeli sci-fi gets made with alarming infrequency, probably a couple of places behind Yukon Sasquatch sightings in the Great Book of Seldom Occurring Phenomena. Thus, any attempt in the genre, no matter how abysmally executed, immediately receives instant extra credit for trying. Even so, Doron Eran's 1990 internationally flavored rendition of Amos Kenan's classic novelette flounders big time despite substantive faithfulness to the original vision. Taking its cue from similar predictions for dystopic futures, Ein Harod (which has been occasionally dubbed Road to Freedom for English releases) projects a totalitarian Israel where democracy has been sacked by military elites using made-up water shortages as ruse to keep the populace under control. Tony Peck, the first in a pair of celebs drafted to the marketing effort when this came out a decade and a half ago, plays disgruntled Saul Jordan, a former journalist and social activist. When authorities put out an APB on Jordan, he makes for an elusive, semi-mythical kibbutz somewhere in the north (Ein Harod, a real-life community by the way), from whence brazen radio transmissions proclaim promises of liberty and resistance to the despotic regime. On the way he hooks up with a Palestinian vagabond (Arnon Zadok), and naturally the two transcend history and nationalism to become close friends.

While evading capture, the duo take possession of an army colonel (Rami Danon) and his small entourage, one of whom happens to be sexy Liora (Alessandra Mussolini, the second so-called celebrity). This situation also allows into proceedings one of the book's more entertaining in-jokes, since three of the five go by the name Rafi: the colonel, his aide and Saul's fellow escapee. Sadly, though, the film fails to develop the irony in a society driven to generic blandness by lies, self-denial and hypocrisy, as hinted at by the uncanny coincidence. In fact, it pretty much fails on all counts. Sure, the mood works fine, with locales doing their part in generating a desolate, claustrophobic atmosphere, from water-starved Tel-Aviv to nowhere spots up in `the northern command'. Audibly Ein Harod has exactly what one would expect from a corny, post-80's, pre-90's SF experiment, i.e lots of apocalyptic synth a la The Terminator.

Unfortunately, producers went for English dialogue throughout with an eye on world audiences, of course. There's no Hebrew save for character and place names, eroding the movie's already questionable credibility. Besides, the DVD version reviewed herein suffers from atrociously incomprehensible voices and no subtitles whatsoever. What ruins Ein Harod above all other issues has to be its reliance on B (no, make that C) movie standards. These include hokey action sequences, laughable FX (yes, even for its time), exaggerated acting and perplexingly horny women awkwardly forcing themselves on reluctant men. The end result conjures images of an over-sexed Plan 9 From the Middle East.

There were other Israeli forays into SF since then, most much better than the above proscribed, but too few nonetheless. A shame, then, since Ein Harod could have been the industry's rally call coming from such a rich literary and visionary background.




Alternativa Sionista....

[Padanik (POL)]

Se la Lega fosse andata da sola, pur turandomi il naso, non avrei esitato a votarla.
Votero' AS in quanto, almeno elettoralmente, è alternativa ai due poli. E poi, votanto AS, potro' dare la preferenza a Flavio, un vecchio amico.

[I'm Hate]

Originally posted by Der Wehrwolf
Derech L'Ein Harod, Ha- (1990)
Directed by
Doron Eran

Writing credits
Amos Kenan (novel)
Rami Na'aman



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Genre: Drama (more)

User Comments: unsuccessful effort to liven Israeli SF circa the late 80's (more)

User Rating: 6.3/10 (8 votes)

Credited cast:
Ya'ackov Ayali
Rami Danon
Elki Jacobs
Alessandra Mussolini .... Liora
Tony Peck .... Saul Jordan
Ze'ev Shimshoni
Shlomo Tarshish
Arnon Zadok .... Mahmoud
(more)

Also Known As:
Back to Freedom (video box title)
Freedom: The Voice of Ein-Harod (USA) (review title)
The Voice of Ein Harod
Runtime: Israel:91 min / USA:90 min
Country: Italy / Israel / USA
Language: Hebrew / Italian
Color: Color

DERECH L'EIN...




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Books
All Products









--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

User Comments:

unsuccessful effort to liven Israeli SF circa the late 80's, 14 April 2004
Author: Lee Alon




Israeli sci-fi gets made with alarming infrequency, probably a couple of places behind Yukon Sasquatch sightings in the Great Book of Seldom Occurring Phenomena. Thus, any attempt in the genre, no matter how abysmally executed, immediately receives instant extra credit for trying. Even so, Doron Eran's 1990 internationally flavored rendition of Amos Kenan's classic novelette flounders big time despite substantive faithfulness to the original vision. Taking its cue from similar predictions for dystopic futures, Ein Harod (which has been occasionally dubbed Road to Freedom for English releases) projects a totalitarian Israel where democracy has been sacked by military elites using made-up water shortages as ruse to keep the populace under control. Tony Peck, the first in a pair of celebs drafted to the marketing effort when this came out a decade and a half ago, plays disgruntled Saul Jordan, a former journalist and social activist. When authorities put out an APB on Jordan, he makes for an elusive, semi-mythical kibbutz somewhere in the north (Ein Harod, a real-life community by the way), from whence brazen radio transmissions proclaim promises of liberty and resistance to the despotic regime. On the way he hooks up with a Palestinian vagabond (Arnon Zadok), and naturally the two transcend history and nationalism to become close friends.

While evading capture, the duo take possession of an army colonel (Rami Danon) and his small entourage, one of whom happens to be sexy Liora (Alessandra Mussolini, the second so-called celebrity). This situation also allows into proceedings one of the book's more entertaining in-jokes, since three of the five go by the name Rafi: the colonel, his aide and Saul's fellow escapee. Sadly, though, the film fails to develop the irony in a society driven to generic blandness by lies, self-denial and hypocrisy, as hinted at by the uncanny coincidence. In fact, it pretty much fails on all counts. Sure, the mood works fine, with locales doing their part in generating a desolate, claustrophobic atmosphere, from water-starved Tel-Aviv to nowhere spots up in `the northern command'. Audibly Ein Harod has exactly what one would expect from a corny, post-80's, pre-90's SF experiment, i.e lots of apocalyptic synth a la The Terminator.

Unfortunately, producers went for English dialogue throughout with an eye on world audiences, of course. There's no Hebrew save for character and place names, eroding the movie's already questionable credibility. Besides, the DVD version reviewed herein suffers from atrociously incomprehensible voices and no subtitles whatsoever. What ruins Ein Harod above all other issues has to be its reliance on B (no, make that C) movie standards. These include hokey action sequences, laughable FX (yes, even for its time), exaggerated acting and perplexingly horny women awkwardly forcing themselves on reluctant men. The end result conjures images of an over-sexed Plan 9 From the Middle East.

There were other Israeli forays into SF since then, most much better than the above proscribed, but too few nonetheless. A shame, then, since Ein Harod could have been the industry's rally call coming from such a rich literary and visionary background.




Alternativa Sionista....

E ti diro' di piu'...
anni fa su "gente" la scicolone disse
"e' giusto che il fascismo venga consegnato alla storia
una destra moderna,fini,bla bla"
si vocifera avesse anche definito l'entità sionista
il suo stato ideale,ma questa e' una voce...
Di sicuro invece abbiamo le prese per il culo
che rifila ogni 2 anni ai camerati,se ti ricordi
il marito venne incriminato per truffa,lei usci da an
con la scusa che non le avevano dato supporto,per
la vicenda del marito,si presenta al congresso della fiamma
tricolore di rauti,beccandosi una marea di fischi,e riciclandosi come fascista,MANCO 2 MESI PIU' TARDI ABBANDONA LA FIAMMA E RITORNA DA FINI!!!!
Storia recente:non la candidano alle europee e fonda as
,e adesso tutti i camerati illusi,credono che guidati da questa
voltagabbana,ex attrice,pro aborto e pro gay(compresa una sua dichiarazione al "italia settimanale" ove si dichiarava addirtittura favorevole alle adozioni gay),che tornerà il fascismo,o avremmo un governo onesto e antiamericano.
SEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee