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    Italy reflected in a plaque

    Politicians are mostly commemorated for giving something to their country. Not in the case of Bettino Craxi, writes John Hooper

    Monday July 4, 2005


    By the time he died, a fugitive from justice, Italy's former prime minister Bettino Craxi had become one of the most discredited figures in Europe's recent history.

    Convicted in his absence of corruption on a vast scale, Craxi embodied a system in which parties, and individuals, grew rich through systematic bribe-taking. As the details were dragged into the light by the so-called Clean Hands anti-graft drive of the early 1990s, Craxi was famously pelted with coins by an irate Roman mob.


    But that was more than 10 years ago and in Italy nobody stays guilty - or is punished - for long. This week, the council of his home city of Milan voted to commemorate him with a plaque - and not just any old plaque.

    This one will be put up in the main square, the Piazza Duomo, at the entrance to his old office. As Gerardo D'Ambrosio, one of the Clean Hands prosecutors observed, this was "the office where the bribes were received".

    Craxi's daughter, Stefania, who had long campaigned for her father to be honoured, told the daily Il Giornale she already had a nice piece of red marble that she hoped the council would use. Gold lettering on the plaque will explain that it marks the premises on which "Bettino Craxi worked for his country [and] his city".

    Ms Craxi said she was happy that her father would be commemorated in his home town, "which he loved so much and which, regrettably, he died without being able to see again".

    "Able" in this context is a questionable use of the word. Until the end of his life, in 2000, Bettino Craxi was free to return to Italy from his self-imposed exile in Tunisia. But had he done so he would have gone straight from the airport to a prison.

    Another of the anti-corruption prosecutors, Antonio Di Pietro, said he was not against a plaque "just so long as the posts that Craxi held are put on it - those of politician and man on the run".

    The commemoration has a lot to say about Italy: the profoundly tolerant attitude to graft and the seemingly endless capacity to pardon. Not the least striking thing about the plaque is that it is not being put up in, say, seedy Naples or chaotic Rome but in the financial and commercial capital of Italy.

    Milan is the city Italians and foreigners are most likely to mention when they want to make the point that there is "another Italy" - one where hard work counts for more than quick wits and where concepts such as meritocracy, transparency and free competition are respected.


    But then it was Milan that, thanks to the combined efforts of Craxi, his cronies and the Clean Hands team, became known in the early 90s as Tangentopoli, "Bribesville".

    It should be remembered that Craxi was a friend and patron of Italy's serving prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, who was - and still is - being pursued for alleged corruption by Milan's prosecutors. It should be noted that the council that approved the plaque to his memory is dominated by Mr Berlusconi's supporters.

    The decision to erect it may, as one critic argued, form part of a drive by the present government to rewrite history, casting the anti-corruption prosecutors of the 1990s in the role of villains and putting those people they exposed in the role of victims. But then not a single leading opposition politician criticised the plaque, and it was left to a spokesman for the Northern League, a government party, to remark sarcastically that plaques were usually put up for "those who left something to others and not those who took".

    As for the delighted Ms Craxi, she said she will now be lobbying the council to bestow her father's name on a street. Or maybe a piazza.


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    Gli itagliani si vergognano della manifestazione della Lega contro Ciappi a Strasburgo,ma di dare la targa a Craxi no invece.

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    La LN, per una volta, fa una breve ma ottima figura nel sagace e godibilissimo articolo.

    La cosa che trovo invece scandalosa è "home city of Milan" e "home town"...Craxi era un siculo di ascendenza albanese, non dimentichiamolo!! Non c'entra un ca**o con la Capitale dell'Insubria!!!
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    In origine postato da Dragonball
    Italy reflected in a plaque

    Politicians are mostly commemorated for giving something to their country. Not in the case of Bettino Craxi, writes John Hooper

    Monday July 4, 2005


    By the time he died, a fugitive from justice, Italy's former prime minister Bettino Craxi had become one of the most discredited figures in Europe's recent history.

    Convicted in his absence of corruption on a vast scale, Craxi embodied a system in which parties, and individuals, grew rich through systematic bribe-taking. As the details were dragged into the light by the so-called Clean Hands anti-graft drive of the early 1990s, Craxi was famously pelted with coins by an irate Roman mob.


    But that was more than 10 years ago and in Italy nobody stays guilty - or is punished - for long. This week, the council of his home city of Milan voted to commemorate him with a plaque - and not just any old plaque.

    This one will be put up in the main square, the Piazza Duomo, at the entrance to his old office. As Gerardo D'Ambrosio, one of the Clean Hands prosecutors observed, this was "the office where the bribes were received".

    Craxi's daughter, Stefania, who had long campaigned for her father to be honoured, told the daily Il Giornale she already had a nice piece of red marble that she hoped the council would use. Gold lettering on the plaque will explain that it marks the premises on which "Bettino Craxi worked for his country [and] his city".

    Ms Craxi said she was happy that her father would be commemorated in his home town, "which he loved so much and which, regrettably, he died without being able to see again".

    "Able" in this context is a questionable use of the word. Until the end of his life, in 2000, Bettino Craxi was free to return to Italy from his self-imposed exile in Tunisia. But had he done so he would have gone straight from the airport to a prison.

    Another of the anti-corruption prosecutors, Antonio Di Pietro, said he was not against a plaque "just so long as the posts that Craxi held are put on it - those of politician and man on the run".

    The commemoration has a lot to say about Italy: the profoundly tolerant attitude to graft and the seemingly endless capacity to pardon. Not the least striking thing about the plaque is that it is not being put up in, say, seedy Naples or chaotic Rome but in the financial and commercial capital of Italy.

    Milan is the city Italians and foreigners are most likely to mention when they want to make the point that there is "another Italy" - one where hard work counts for more than quick wits and where concepts such as meritocracy, transparency and free competition are respected.


    But then it was Milan that, thanks to the combined efforts of Craxi, his cronies and the Clean Hands team, became known in the early 90s as Tangentopoli, "Bribesville".

    It should be remembered that Craxi was a friend and patron of Italy's serving prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, who was - and still is - being pursued for alleged corruption by Milan's prosecutors. It should be noted that the council that approved the plaque to his memory is dominated by Mr Berlusconi's supporters.

    The decision to erect it may, as one critic argued, form part of a drive by the present government to rewrite history, casting the anti-corruption prosecutors of the 1990s in the role of villains and putting those people they exposed in the role of victims. But then not a single leading opposition politician criticised the plaque, and it was left to a spokesman for the Northern League, a government party, to remark sarcastically that plaques were usually put up for "those who left something to others and not those who took".

    As for the delighted Ms Craxi, she said she will now be lobbying the council to bestow her father's name on a street. Or maybe a piazza.


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    Gli itagliani si vergognano della manifestazione della Lega contro Ciappi a Strasburgo,ma di dare la targa a Craxi no invece.
    Hai ragione : la sinistra mira ad imbarcare il Nuovo PSI con BOBO e VERGOGNOSAMENTE non ha DETTO nulla.

    La Lega e' ora in giunta a MILANO e non si e' OPPOSTA.

    La targa e' una DELIBERA DI GIUNTA : LA LEGA POTEVA OPPORSI ; LA SINISTRA POTEVA PROTESTARE.

    La realta' , caro DRAGONBALL , e' che avallate tutte ma proprio tutte le decisioni di Berlusconi.

    Non siete piu' un partito ma una SOTTOMARCA di FORZA ITALIA.
    Spero che molti leghisti votino la MARCA PRINCIPALE , in termine di maggioranza non cambierebbe nulla ne guadagnerebbe la trasparenza.

    Viva Berlusconi ed il suo fido cane da guardia Bossi!

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    In origine postato da furbo
    Hai ragione : la sinistra mira ad imbarcare il Nuovo PSI con BOBO e VERGOGNOSAMENTE non ha DETTO nulla.

    La Lega e' ora in giunta a MILANO e non si e' OPPOSTA.

    La targa e' una DELIBERA DI GIUNTA : LA LEGA POTEVA OPPORSI ; LA SINISTRA POTEVA PROTESTARE.

    La realta' , caro DRAGONBALL , e' che avallate tutte ma proprio tutte le decisioni di Berlusconi.

    Non siete piu' un partito ma una SOTTOMARCA di FORZA ITALIA.
    Spero che molti leghisti votino la MARCA PRINCIPALE , in termine di maggioranza non cambierebbe nulla ne guadagnerebbe la trasparenza.

    Viva Berlusconi ed il suo fido cane da guardia Bossi!
    Basta con la propaganda pizzaiolo.

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    In origine postato da Dragonball
    Basta con la propaganda pizzaiolo.
    Capisco cxhe la VERITA' fa male!

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    Predefinito i furbi salveranno l'itaglia

    i furbi sono già tanti. uno in più farà poco danno, anche se ci prova con tutto quello che ha in mentula.

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    hey furbo, non provocare...a onor del vero in questo
    caso la Lega si e' opposta e lo ha detto, ma la giunta
    ha votato a maggioranza.

    Naturalmente ci si puo' chiedere perche' la Lega
    e' in giunta con FI, ma e' un discorso a parte.
    Nel caso specifico la Lega non ha colpa.

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    Predefinito Re: i furbi salveranno l'itaglia

    In origine postato da dime can
    i furbi sono già tanti. uno in più farà poco danno, anche se ci prova con tutto quello che ha in mentula.
    Il Suslov , guardiano della ortodossia leghista , ha PARLATO!
    Complimenti "dime can" lei svolge il suo lavoro con competenza , dedizione e sopratutto molta furbizia.

    Quando i leghisti si sveglieranno si ricorderanno anche di LEI.

    Mai pero' rispondere agli argomenti : perche' l'assessore leghista ha avallato la targa a CRAXI?
    Per compiacere l'ex socialista Ettore Albertoni o per altro o non ne ha idea?

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    Mentre a palemmo è stata imbrattata e danneggiata la targa al giudice Borsellino. Ah già saranno stati i leghisti razzisti
    Tu che odi dio e la vita cristiana
    Senti la sua presenza come un doloroso cancro
    Vengano profanate e profanate aspramente
    Le praterie del cielo bagnate di sangue

    Odiatore di dio
    E della peste della luce

    Guarda negli occhi paralizzati di dio
    E sputa al suo cospetto
    Colpisci a morte il suo miserevole agnello
    Con la clava

    Dio, con ciò che ti appartiene ed i tuoi seguaci
    Hai mandato il mio regno di Norvegia in rovine
    I tempi antichi, le solide usanze e tradizioni
    Hai distrutto con la tua orrida parola
    Ora vai via dalla nostra terra!

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    La protesta della Lega, invece, non si placa. Matteo Salvini, capogruppo lumbard in consiglio comunale, insorge: «Siamo assolutamente contrari. Ci dispiace che l'amministrazione perda tempo e credibilità con iniziative come questa. In genere la targhe si dedicano a chi ha dato, non a chi ha portato via. Se questo è il metodo, la prossima via la dedicheremo a Calisto Tanzi».


    Speriamo che qualche patriota padano provveda a rimuovere con le buone o, meglio, con le cattive quella schifezza malanese...
    Dato che questa è una Magnum 44, cioè la pistola più precisa del mondo, che con un colpo ti spappolerebbe il cranio, devi decidere se è il caso. Dì, ne vale la pena? ("Dirty" Harry Callahan)

 

 
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