LH/LX : nuove intese , nuovi c/s , nuova organizzazione negli hubs S.A.

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Lufthansa e Swiss pronte con i servizi congiunti dal 30 ottobre
Ottimizzate le attività a Zurigo, Francoforte e Monaco a partire dall'orario invernale.

L’integrazione di Swiss in Lufthansa prosegue e con l’orario invernale, dal 30 ottobre, i passeggeri delle due aviolinee beneficeranno dei servizi congiunti negli aeroporti di Zurigo, Francoforte e Monaco. I partner stanno armonizzando i timetable e coordinando i servizi complementari nei tre aeroporti. A Zurigo, i passeggeri di Lufthansa (e di Austrian Airlines) verranno ricevuti ai check in 1 e 3 mentre gli aeromobili di queste compagnie partner di Swiss utilizzeranno il terminal A, a Francoforte Swiss verrà ospitata al terminal 1 e a Monaco al terminal 2. I passeggeri saranno così agevolati da rapidi spostamenti tra le aree aeroportuali nei voli di connessione mentre i desk dei check in congiunti velocizzeranno le pratiche di accettazione alle compagnie.

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69 worldwide destinations in SWISS’s 2005/06 winter schedules

Swiss International Air Lines will be offering flights to 42 European and 27 intercontinental destinations in its 2005/06 winter schedules. The new timetable sees the further development of SWISS’s growing collaboration with Lufthansa and Star Alliance members TAP Portugal and Austrian Airlines. SWISS will operate its winter schedules with a 70-aircraft fleet. In view of market conditions in the Basel region, SWISS will be substantially reducing its services to and from EuroAirport Basel-Mulhouse-Freiburg.

SWISS and Lufthansa will be harmonising their services between Switzerland and Germany from the start of the 2005/06 winter schedules on October 30. All Lufthansa and all SWISS flights between the two countries will be operated on a codeshare basis. The new arrangement offers substantial benefits and added value for customers of the two partners, in the form of more frequencies, additional destinations and better connections (through coordinated timetables) at the three hubs of Zurich, Frankfurt and Munich. SWISS and Lufthansa are also working to create additional codeshare services, which will be gradually introduced between their hubs and further European and intercontinental destinations.

SWISS is also expanding the codeshare services it operates together with Star Alliance members TAP Portugal and Austrian Airlines. All flights between Switzerland and Portugal (from Zurich to Lisbon and from Geneva to Lisbon and Porto) will now operate as codeshares with TAP Portugal, and all services to Vienna from Basel, Geneva and Zurich will be operated as codeshares with Austrian Airlines. Further codeshare agreements are currently being planned. Details of these will be communicated in due time.

SWISS will offer its own services to a total of 69 destinations – 27 intercontinental and 42 European – in its new winter schedules. These will be operated by a fleet of 70 aircraft.

SWISS’s own service pattern to and from Zurich will remain virtually unchanged, with a network of 41 European and 27 intercontinental destinations. SWISS’s own operations will be supplemented by numerous codeshare services to various points in Europe and farther afield. All SWISS services between Switzerland and Germany will be harmonised with those of Lufthansa. In cases in which the two carriers previously competed against each other with almost simultaneous departures, these flights will now be spread out, offering customers a denser overall network of frequencies throughout the day. SWISS customers will enjoy no fewer than 54 daily services between Zurich and Germany, compared with the present 35.

Service from Geneva will see the addition of Frankfurt, Munich, Düsseldorf, Vienna and Porto to the SWISS network, through codeshare agreements with Lufthansa, Austrian Airlines and TAP Portugal. Flights to Lisbon will be operated solely by TAP Portugal from the beginning of September onwards, following the introduction of the new codeshare agreement between the carrier and SWISS. Service will be withdrawn from the Geneva-Rome route at the beginning of October. Otherwise, SWISS’s Geneva-based service pattern remains unchanged for the winter schedules. SWISS will thus offer seven of its own and 13 codeshare destinations from Geneva. The codeshare flights to the Lufthansa hubs of Frankfurt and Munich will substantially expand the range of connecting services available to customers from the Geneva region.

Basel: SWISS announced back in January 2005 that, for economic reasons, it is no longer able to maintain its services to and from Basel in their present form. In the current competitive environment, small regional aircraft cannot be viably operated. In view of this, the planned collaboration with regional carriers has also proved impossible. As a result of these developments, SWISS has redefined its Basel-based services. From October 30 onwards, SWISS will serve London City, Brussels and Amsterdam from EuroAirport Basel-Mulhouse-Freiburg using one Embraer 145 and one Avro RJ100. Frankfurt, Munich and Düsseldorf will also be served from Basel through a codeshare agreement with Lufthansa, and Vienna will be similarly served via a codeshare with Austrian Airlines.

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Lufthansa & SWISS: A broader range of services and new customer benefits with the coming winter schedules

More destinations, denser frequencies and better connections: the collaboration between Lufthansa and SWISS continues to make good progress, and will now offer customers many further benefits with the new winter schedules. All services between Switzerland and Germany will be operated as codeshare flights from the start of the new schedules on October 30. The partners are also harmonising their timetables to provide a coordinated and complementary range of services at their three hubs of Zurich, Frankfurt and Munich.

SWISS’s integration into the Lufthansa Group continues to make good progress – as can be seen, among other things, by the many innovations in the new 2005/06 winter schedules that will offer passengers of both airlines an expanded air travel product and further customer benefits. Those benefits include more destinations, better and coordinated connections, interlinked frequent flyer programmes and enhanced lounge access arrangements.

Coordinated services between Switzerland and Germany in the new winter schedules

Lufthansa and SWISS are harmonising their services between Switzerland and Germany in their 2005/06 winter schedules effective October 30. All Lufthansa and all SWISS flights between the two countries will be operated as codeshares, and the partners’ timetables will be closely coordinated: instead of competing against each other with almost simultaneous departures (as was often the case in the past), the partners have realigned their schedules to offer a denser frequency of services spread throughout the day. For customers, the new approach means more frequencies, additional destinations and better connections (through coordinated timetables) at the three hubs of Zurich, Frankfurt and Munich. SWISS will offer 69 destinations in 41 countries in its winter schedules, while Lufthansa offers service to 181 destinations in 76 countries. Customers will now have a choice of 563 flights a week between Switzerland and Germany in the new timetable period.

“Our joint approach to our services between Switzerland and Germany marks another milestone in the still-young partnership between our two carriers,” says Christoph Franz, President and Chief Executive Officer of SWISS. “And we are delighted at the genuine added value that it will provide for our passengers.”

“These enhancements for our customers confirm that, as they continue to develop their partnership, Lufthansa and SWISS are on the right track,” adds Thierry Antinori, Executive Vice President Marketing & Sales, Lufthansa German Airlines. “We are making good and rapid progress, and are offering a wide range of new opportunities to all our passengers. The network is growing, and our customers are feeling all the many benefits of better flight connections and an expanded service product.”

Once the corresponding traffic rights issues have been clarified, Lufthansa and SWISS aim to extend their codeshare operations to selected intercontinental routes.

A joint presence under a single roof

In a further collaborative innovation from the start of the winter schedules, all the partners’ check-in desks and departure gates at their three hubs of Zurich, Frankfurt and Munich will be accommodated with the home carrier. In Zurich, Lufthansa (and Austrian Airlines) passengers will be served at Check-in 1 and Check-in 3, and the aircraft of these SWISS partner carriers will use Pier A wherever possible. In Frankfurt, SWISS will be accommodated in Terminal 1; and in Munich SWISS will use Terminal 2.

The new handling arrangements offer customers a host of tangible benefits. The shorter journeys between gates permit quicker transfers and thus better connections. And the use of joint desks will make the entire check-in process faster and smoother for SWISS customers in Germany and for Lufthansa customers in Switzerland (in Zurich, Geneva and Basel). SWISS’s integration into the Lufthansa Group will also be underlined to customers by a joint visual appearance at the partners’ three hubs. Operations at further airports in Switzerland and Germany should be similarly harmonised between now and next year’s summer schedules.

Extended lounge access

Elite-level Lufthansa and SWISS customers already enjoy the use of both partners’ lounges. With the coming winter schedules, this facility will be extended to all Business Class customers, Swiss TravelClub Silver members and Miles & More Frequent Travellers.

Frequent flyer programmes more attractive than ever

Members of the Swiss TravelClub and Lufthansa Miles & More frequent flyer programmes have been able to collect and spend miles on both partners’ networks since July 20. Swiss TravelClub members earn Club Miles on all scheduled services operated by Lufthansa, and can redeem their miles for Lufthansa Free Tickets; and Miles & More members earn award miles and status miles on all SWISS-operated flights, and can book flight awards on SWISS. The features of the two frequent flyer programmes will be further interlinked in association with SWISS’s planned membership of Star Alliance in 2006.

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SWISS expands its Basel technical services

SWISS Technical Services is further developing its position as one of the leading maintenance, repair and overhaul providers in the regional aircraft sector. The unit has concluded a comprehensive long-term maintenance agreement with Blue1, the Finnish-based carrier, covering five Saab 2000 aircraft. SWISS Technical Services will also be ramping up its Avro RJ heavy maintenance activities, extending these to the Avro RJ85s of Lufthansa CityLine. In view of the higher work volumes, the Basel-based unit will be recruiting up to 50 new technical personnel.

Swiss International Air Lines can draw on many years of experience in providing regional aircraft maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) services that are closely aligned to customer carrier needs. SWISS currently offers MRO services for Avro RJ, Saab 2000 and Embraer 145 equipment which include aircraft, engine, propeller and component maintenance, repair and overhaul along with total technical care concepts that extend to engineering, planning and spares supplies.

The new collaboration between SWISS and Lufthansa will bear its first fruit in the MRO field this autumn when SWISS performs its first heavy maintenance check on a Lufthansa CityLine Avro RJ85. The partners plan to further exploit the synergies offered in the maintenance of the SWISS and Lufthansa CityLine Avro RJ85/100 fleets in the longer term, by ensuring that maintenance work previously entrusted to external providers is performed within the Lufthansa Group.

In a further development, SWISS has concluded a long-term MRO agreement with Finnish-based Blue1, a member of the Star Alliance, for the maintenance of the carrier’s five Saab 2000s. SWISS is one of the leading providers of MRO services for this aircraft type.

To handle the increased work volumes represented by the Lufthansa CityLine and Blue1 business, SWISS Technical Services will be doubling its fixed capacity from the present single heavy maintenance or “C Check” line. The unit will also be expanding its workforce by up to 50 new technical personnel.

In addition to its flying staff, SWISS currently employs some 750 personnel in Basel, just under 400 of them in its Technical Services unit. By expanding its technical workforce, SWISS is also consolidating its position as one of the biggest employers at EuroAirport Basel-Mulhouse-Freiburg.

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Addio alla Roma-Ginevra, quindi... Quali sono le sette destinazioni LX da GVA?

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In Origine postato da hokusai77
Addio alla Roma-Ginevra, quindi... Quali sono le sette destinazioni LX da GVA?

Difficile dirlo , non saprei così .... dovrei cercare.
Ormai però è rimasto ben poco da GVA (e BSL farà la stessa fine). Un'altra rotta importante come Parigi l'hanno tolta già da diversi mesi e sono rimasti solo con un c/s con AF. Chissà se faranno la stessa cosa con AZ.

In un altra parte di articolo si dice che LX dismetterà progressivamente gran parte della flotta regionale (gli aerei più piccoli come S2000 e ER4) ma riceverà degli Avro (6 credo) , ma credo tutto ciò sarà progressivamente ..... con l'orario estivo 2006.
Si concentrerà sempre di + sul longhaul in futuro e gioverà per questo anche del feedering operato dai nuovi vettori partner (sul lungoraggio LX ha già adeso un LF medio dell'83,2%).

Ciao

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Ho controllato, LX dovrebbe volare da Ginevra a:

• Barcellona, bigiornaliero
• Lisbona, giornaliero
• Londra LCY, 4 voli al giorno, 3/2 nel fine settimana
• Malaga, bisettimanale
• Mosca DME, giornaliero
• New York JFK, giornaliero
• Roma FCO, giornaliero (ancora per poco...)
• Zurigo, 9 frequenze giornaliere

Quindi, tolta Roma, 7.

Ciao
Yari

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In Origine postato da hokusai77
Ho controllato, LX dovrebbe volare da Ginevra a:

• Barcellona, bigiornaliero
• Lisbona, giornaliero
• Londra LCY, 4 voli al giorno, 3/2 nel fine settimana
• Malaga, bisettimanale
• Mosca DME, giornaliero
• New York JFK, giornaliero
• Roma FCO, giornaliero (ancora per poco...)
• Zurigo, 9 frequenze giornaliere

Quindi, tolta Roma, 7.

Ciao
Yari

C'è qualcosa che non torna. Ad esempio volano anche su Atene. E su Lisbona dovrebbe essere soppresso in favore del volo di TP che sarà in c/s con LX.


Ciao

EDIT : attualmente la GVA-FCO di LX è trigiornaliera (2 al w-e) con AR8/AR1.

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In Origine postato da landingFCO
C'è qualcosa che non torna. Ad esempio volano anche su Atene. E su Lisbona dovrebbe essere soppresso in favore del volo di TP che sarà in c/s con LX.


Ciao

EDIT : attualmente la GVA-FCO di LX è trigiornaliera (2 al w-e) con AR8/AR1.

Hai ragione, volano con il 320 su Atene, e FCO è trigiornaliera.
Che cancellino le rotte con l'AR8/AR1, ovvero LCY, AGP e FCO?

Rimarrebbero quindi

• Atene
• Barcellona
• Mosca
• New York
• Zurigo

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In Origine postato da hokusai77
Hai ragione, volano con il 320 su Atene, e FCO è trigiornaliera.
Che cancellino le rotte con l'AR8/AR1, ovvero LCY, AGP e FCO?

Rimarrebbero quindi

• Atene
• Barcellona
• Mosca
• New York
• Zurigo

Yari sinceramente non ci sto capendo molto. Mandano via (dall'estate 06) i S2000 e ER4 ma prenderanno altri 6 AR1 (da BACX la quale a sua volta li toglierà da MAN con tutte le rotte cancellate di cui abbiamo parlato sett. scorsa). E sono sicuri che tutte le rotte siano tali (anche quelle più piccole da ZRH intendo) da mantenere positivamente gli AR1? Secondo me dei 50seats come i Saab o Embraer servivano. Questa scelta proprio non l'ho capita.
Sul network LX da GVA bisognerà attendere le prox settimane perchè adesso è tutto caricato (ad es sul sito vendono ancora la FCO-GVA regolarmente).

Ciao

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In Origine postato da landingFCO
Yari sinceramente non ci sto capendo molto. Mandano via (dall'estate 06) i S2000 e ER4 ma prenderanno altri 6 AR1 (da BACX la quale a sua volta li toglierà da MAN con tutte le rotte cancellate di cui abbiamo parlato sett. scorsa). E sono sicuri che tutte le rotte siano tali (anche quelle più piccole da ZRH intendo) da mantenere positivamente gli AR1? Secondo me dei 50seats come i Saab o Embraer servivano. Questa scelta proprio non l'ho capita.
Sul network LX da GVA bisognerà attendere le prox settimane perchè adesso è tutto caricato (ad es sul sito vendono ancora la FCO-GVA regolarmente).

Ciao

Non capisco neanch'io questa logica. Difatti, se ZRH deve diventare, nell'ottica LH, un hub intercontinentale, come li fanno i voli di avvicinamento? Faranno come sulla provincia italiana?

Da notare inoltre il mantenimento di rotte come la Ginevra-Mosca e la Ginevra-New York... devono rendere un bel po' se LX non le cancella

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In Origine postato da hokusai77
Non capisco neanch'io questa logica. Difatti, se ZRH deve diventare, nell'ottica LH, un hub intercontinentale, come li fanno i voli di avvicinamento? Faranno come sulla provincia italiana?

Da notare inoltre il mantenimento di rotte come la Ginevra-Mosca e la Ginevra-New York... devono rendere un bel po' se LX non le cancella

Dicono che in parecchi casi il feeder su ZRH li faranno tramite compagnie partner con cui voleranno in c/s (penso soprattutto TP , LH , OS , SK...). Quindi in questo modo riusciranno a liberarsi di alcune macchine regionali che magari adesso andavano a coprire rotte verso paesi "Star All." con cui LX è attualmente in concorrenza.

Altre spiegazioni logiche non le trovo altrimenti.


Per quanto riguarda la GVA-Mosca e NY ... penso cha vadano molto bene. Su NY in particolare leggevo hanno parecchio traffico Business stabile. Io cmq sono convinto che GVA (e anche BSL) siano state falciate come basi progressivamente nel corso degli ultimi anni (basta vedere quanti collegamenti avevano 3-4-5 anni fà ...) per problemi di "contenimento" da parte di Swiss (nata dalla fusione della ex Swissair e Crossair). Operava un sacco di voli prettamente business da GVA e BSL su diverse città più o meno grandi d'Europa. Si permetteva il lusso pure di avere anche voli da LUG (anche su FCO , CDG per es). Anche su ZRH cmq hanno tagliato parecchio nel corso degli anni. Con i loro aeromobili volano in Italia solo a FCO e MXP (fino a qualche anno fa operavano su TRN , BLQ , VCE ; FLR ...e ancora prima GOA , VRN....oltre ai vari stagionali come ad es NAP e OLB). Su molte rotte a più ondate giornaliere (sia per il buisiness a/r in giornata sia per le connessioni lungo raggio via ZRH le macchine 50 posti erano adeguate. Certe rotte sarebbero credo un fallimento o quasi con macchine da 100 posti).
Poi hanno incominciato a tagliare a partire da LUG (sulla quale sì volano ancora ma tramite compagnia partner) e anche sui voli da GVA e parecchio anche da BSL (e pensare che a BSL gli hanno costruito in pratica l'aeroporto su misura .... per la vecchia Crossair .... gates quasi tutti studiati per i aeromobili regionali.....; doveva essere un'aeroporto piccolo ma efficiente e soprattutto veloce per chi viaggiava soprattutto per affari ; ora sta diventando un'altra cosa).

Io rimpiango sempre quello che erano Swissair e Crossair


Ciao