Paranoia is bad for the church

[Ashmael]

Welcome to the European version of "OMG Christianity is under attack!":

The Vatican is worried its opposition to abortion, embryonic stem cell research and gay marriage could one day land it before an international court of justice.



There is a conspiracy. Governments in totalitarian states like France, the United Kingdom, The Netherlands and Switzerland are working together to destroy families and moral values.

"We worry especially that, with current laws, speaking in defense of life and the rights of families is becoming in some societies sort of a crime against the state," Lopez Trujillo told the Catholic news magazine Famiglia Cristiana for its issue scheduled to hit the stands Thursday."

No, no, you are not committing a crime by defending life and the rights of families, caro cardinale. But if you preach intolerance in a country where preaching intolerance is verboten, then you commit a crime. If you believe you are right, go ahead and carry the consequences.

Btw. you will also have to go to court if some of your priests should kill someone during an exorcism. Or if you'd, I don't know, burn a witch. Or molest children. Governments can be pesky that way.

If the Catholic church doesn't want to give its blessing to gay marriage: fine. No problem with that. If you are gay and a member of that church, you can either dedicate your time to changing their minds or decide that God can be found everywhere, and that you don't need an organisation to find him/her/it for you.

But what sort of laws the government sets regarding registered partnerships (which we also call marriages, btw.), is none of the church's bloody business.

This aside: hey, imagine how many happy families you could create if you allowed your priests to marry and fill the earth with the fruits of their loins! Now THAT would deal the heathens a blow! The Fundamentalist Church of the Saints of the Latter Days in Utah showed how its done! Imagine how many soldiers for your war you could get, counting 18 kids per priest! Seriously, the pope should consider this.

In the interview, Lopez Trujillo reiterated that according to church rules, women who have abortions, the doctors and nurses who help them and the father, if he is going along with it, are excommunicated.

I have news for you: the only one to decide who is a Christian is - God. And with all due respect, do you think you are more important than god?

Cut that. We already know the answer.

[antoninus]

So, Ass-Mael, you speak English.

Then you must know what "fudgepacker" means.

[Ashmael]

Yes...what happens when you try to exert your excuse for a brain,you nonentity.

[antoninus]

Yes...what happens when you try to exert your excuse for a brain,you nonentity.

Not quite, penis breath.

[Ashmael]

Well... Homophobia may be a reality, but that doesn't mean that "WE" have to accept it as NORMAL...

Homophobes are insecure about their own sexuality.... That is a fact! - Ask any Psychiatrist.

I personally do not believe that GOD, if you believe in such a thing; would condone discrimination of any kind, but try telling that to the bible thumbing nit-wits who swear that what is written in the Bible, is God's will, word and testament...

Any religion that "DIVIDES" rather than "UNITES" us as a species, is simply a bunch of bull, and should be treated as what it is... Rubish.

The word "Catholic" means UNIVERSAL (look it up in a dictionary) - yet the catholic church is anything but Universal, they are a bunch of self-flatulating lunatics that use the MYTH of an all mighty god to discriminate against anyone and everyone they choose to discriminate against.... Jesus Christ would be ashamed of having his name associated with this pack of self-rigthgeous hypocrates.

Not to long ago, women were also deemed as EVIL and VILE, by the Catholic church. As a matter of fact, even today women "STRAIGHT" women are being discriminated against, by the holyier than thou, Catholic church. Meanwhile the priests who swore an oath of celebicy, are bumping and grinding "eachother" in the shadows of their own glass houses; while throwing stones at those who live in brick homes.

Screw them and their pathetic beliefs.. They are the real evil in this world and many of us recognize them as such.

[antoninus]

Well... Homophobia may be a reality, but that doesn't mean that "WE" have to accept it as NORMAL...

Homophobes are insecure about their own sexuality.... That is a fact! - Ask any Psychiatrist.

I personally do not believe that GOD, if you believe in such a thing; would condone discrimination of any kind, but try telling that to the bible thumbing nit-wits who swear that what is written in the Bible, is God's will, word and testament...

Any religion that "DIVIDES" rather than "UNITES" us as a species, is simply a bunch of bull, and should be treated as what it is... Rubish.

The word "Catholic" means UNIVERSAL (look it up in a dictionary) - yet the catholic church is anything but Universal, they are a bunch of self-flatulating lunatics that use the MYTH of an all mighty god to discriminate against anyone and everyone they choose to discriminate against.... Jesus Christ would be ashamed of having his name associated with this pack of self-rigthgeous hypocrates.

Not to long ago, women were also deemed as EVIL and VILE, by the Catholic church. As a matter of fact, even today women "STRAIGHT" women are being discriminated against, by the holyier than thou, Catholic church. Meanwhile the priests who swore an oath of celebicy, are bumping and grinding "eachother" in the shadows of their own glass houses; while throwing stones at those who live in brick homes.

Screw them and their pathetic beliefs.. They are the real evil in this world and many of us recognize them as such.

[Ashmael]

La Verità ti farà libero, Antoninus...guarisci dalla tua omofobia! Si può!

[antoninus]

La Verità ti farà libero, Antoninus...guarisci dalla tua omofobia! Si può!

E la verita` che sarebbe? Che sono frocio anch'io? Please. Such a cliche`.

[Ashmael]

Cura per l'omofobia: il paziente viene istruito sulla tolleranza e sull'accettazione della diversità. Gli viene spiegato che atti sessuali fra adulti consenzienti di un'innocua minoranza non lo danneggiano in alcun modo, e che non deve sentirsi minacciato nella sua identità sessuale dall'esistenza di altre varianti di orientamento sessuale. Gli bviene anche spiegato che una sana tolleranza della diversità umana è perfettamente compatibile cvolò criostianesimo. e che l'insegnamento di Gesù non ha nulla a che fare con le paranoie omo e sessuofobiche, anzi, tali paranoie sono CONTRO l'insegnamento di Gesù.
Gli viene anche spiegato che la sensibilitàe l'amore omosessuale non si riducono all'accoppiamento anale, che puuò benissimo non esserci, mentre l'affetto e la tenerezza fra amanti sono una componente essenziale.
Gli viene spiegato che ridurre l'omosessualità al coito anale è una meschinità offensiva degna del der sturmer del nazista Streicher.
Questo per l'inizio: seguirà un'opera di rafforzamento dell'identità sessuale.

[antoninus]

Cura per l'omofobia: il paziente viene istruito sulla tolleranza e sull'accettazione della diversità. Gli viene spiegato che atti sessuali fra adulti consenzienti di un'innocua minoranza non lo danneggiano in alcun modo, e che non deve sentirsi minacciato nella sua identità sessuale dall'esistenza di altre varianti di orientamento sessuale. Gli bviene anche spiegato che una sana tolleranza della diversità umana è perfettamente compatibile cvolò criostianesimo. e che l'insegnamento di Gesù non ha nulla a che fare con le paranoie omo e sessuofobiche, anzi, tali paranoie sono CONTRO l'insegnamento di Gesù.
Gli viene anche spiegato che la sensibilitàe l'amore omosessuale non si riducono all'accoppiamento anale, che puuò benissimo non esserci, mentre l'affetto e la tenerezza fra amanti sono una componente essenziale.
Gli viene spiegato che ridurre l'omosessualità al coito anale è una meschinità offensiva degna del der sturmer del nazista Streicher.
Questo per l'inizio: seguirà un'opera di rafforzamento dell'identità sessuale.

Luoghi comuni.