Le Opere di Thomas Taylor (Neo-Platonico Inglese)

[Antiokos]

Saluti a Tutti, qualcuno saprebbe dirmi dove posso ordinare on-line le opere di Thomas Taylor? (ovviamente in inglese, non esistono traduzioni...) so che le sue opere sono pubblicate dalla Fondazione Prometheus Trust, ma non avendo ahimè carta di credito farmele spedire dall'Inghilterra è impossibile... (non credo accettino la Poste-Pay o il Contrassegno ), sapete se qualche bookshop italiano è in grado di reperirle? Io ho già fatto ordini con IBS e Unilibro, quest'ultima libreria procura anche libri stranieri, ma Thomas Taylor nei cataloghi non è presente.

Grazie, saluti.

[Chaos88 (POL)]

Ave, Antioke -

io ti consiglierei di controllare su Amazon.com oppure (ancora meglio, trovo) su Abebooks.de. Hanno un sacco di libri in inglese, e avranno sicuramente anche qualche edizione di Taylor. Il pagamento è sempre con carta di credito; pero' se con 'Poste Pay' intendi la 'carta di credito' delle Poste (quella gialla), guarda che dovrebbe andare benissimo (è fatta apposta per pagare online: dovrebbe essere una Visa, se non sbaglio...)

Vale bene!

[Antiokos]

Ave, Antioke -

io ti consiglierei di controllare su Amazon.com oppure (ancora meglio, trovo) su Abebooks.de. Hanno un sacco di libri in inglese, e avranno sicuramente anche qualche edizione di Taylor. Il pagamento è sempre con carta di credito; pero' se con 'Poste Pay' intendi la 'carta di credito' delle Poste (quella gialla), guarda che dovrebbe andare benissimo (è fatta apposta per pagare online: dovrebbe essere una Visa, se non sbaglio...)

Vale bene!

Grazie Chaos, si, la Poste-Pay è la Carta di credito Gialla delle Poste Italiane, si, è utilissima per i pagamenti in Internet, ma non avendo mai acquistato all'estero via Internet non so se è valida per tali acquisti. Guarderò nei siti da te consigliati. Nello specifico tu ce l'hai il libro di Taylor Against the Christians?

Vale!

[stuart mill]

Chaos ti ha detto quanto stavo per dirti io. Usa amazon più postepay

dato che le spese di sped per l'italia sono di 10 euro fissi, ti conviene mandare più libri per ammortizzare le spese.
Io avevo intenzione di acquistarne un pò più in la, vedremo

[Antiokos]

Su Amazon c'è ben poco di Thomas Taylor... su Abebooks c'è molta più scelta ma comunque molti libri sono out of store... pensoche l'unica sia di ordinare direttamente dalla Fondazione Prometheus Trust, dove sono presentitutte e 33 le opere curate da Taylor, l'ordine e via e-mail... e fanno lo sconto.

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[Chaos88 (POL)]

Confesso che purtroppo non ho mai letto Taylor, anche se spero di farlo presto. Against the Christians in particolare dovrebbe essere davvero interessante per noi! Cmq guarda che su Abebooks.com sembra che ne abbiano un sacco al momento, a partire da 13 $. Spediscono dall'Amerca, ma non dovrebbe essere un problema: ti verrebbe lo stesso a costare poco (e con la Postepay non dovrebbe essere un problema pagare, visto che conta come una Visa normale...)

Ieri invece ho 'costretto' mia morosa a ordinarmi online il mio regalo di Natale: l'ultima (e 'definitiva') edizione critica del De Mysteriis di Giamblico (praticamente l'unica traduzione inglese esistente, con testo greco a fronte!)

[Antiokos]

Stupendo! con testo greco a fronte!, io ho l'edizione italiana della BUR (sempre con testo greco a fronte). Per quanto riguarda il mondo anglofono, sò che oltre all'edizione da te acquistata curata da Emma Clarke e John Dillon, c'è anche quella appunto di T. Taylor, credo anch'essa con testo greco a fronte con annessa la Vita Pitagorica:

Vol. XVII Iamblichus On the Mysteries and Life of Pythagoras

450pp ISBN 1 898910 16 2 £23

With pagination added from Pathay/des Place and many extra cross-references, this edition of On the Mysteries will be of interest to all those who value the ancients wisdom of theurgy, divination and true worship. Iamblichus' Life of Pythagoras is included in this volume together with over 40 fragments from the writings of the Pythagoreans of antiquity.

Also available in paperback, ISBN 1 898910 77 4, price £17

[Antiokos]

Thomas Taylor (1758 - 1835), known as the English Platonist, was the first to translate into English the complete works of Plato and Aristotle. He also translated many of the later Platonists and also some of the remaining fragments of the earliest Greek writings, such as the Orphics, and the Pythagoreans. These translations, together with his original works, represent the most comprehensive survey of the philosophical thought of European antiquity.

This series will be of great interest to several distinct groups of readers; firstly, those who are adherents of the so- called `Neo-Platonic' tradition. Taylor has always held a special place in the esteem of many of the great artists and thinkers of the last two centuries, - Blake, Shelley and Wordsworth, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Bronson Alcott, and G.R.S. Mead have all been profoundly influenced by his writings and translations. He still commands a small but enthusiastic following amongst those who have made philosophical mysticism their study.

Secondly, Taylor's place in the history of philosophy means that the many academics involved in this area will find this series an invaluable resource.

Thirdly, as the current re-evaluation of `Neo-Platonism' gathers pace in the philosophy departments of many universities, Taylor's writings will be seen as an essential aid in the process. The texts from which Taylor worked were even more incomplete than those available today; wherever he found lacunas and errors Taylor used his own understanding of the Platonists to suggest how the original would have read: modern textual research and discoveries have revealed that his suggestions and corrections were largely correct. As a result, Taylor is now beginning to enjoy a greater appreciation amongst academic circles than at any point previously.

http://www.prometheustrust.co.uk/Tho...as_taylor.html

[Antiokos]

Thomas Taylor (15 May 1758 - 1 November 1835) was an English translator and Neoplatonist, the first to translate into English the complete works of Aristotle and of Plato, as well as the Orphic fragments. The texts that he used had been edited since the 16th century, but were interrupted by lacunae; Taylor's thorough understanding of the Platonists informed his suggested emendations, which, when better manuscripts have been found, were often proved just. His translations were influential to William Blake, Percy Bysshe Shelley and William Wordsworth. In American editions they were read by Ralph Waldo Emerson, Bronson Alcott, and G.R.S. Mead, secretary of Mme Blavatsky the founder of Theosophy. He and his wife took Mary Wollstonecraft, into their home when she was an unhappy teenager, and thus influenced the future author of A Vindication of the Rights of Woman.

Born in London, Taylor was educated at St. Paul's School, London, and devoted himself to the study of the classics and of mathematics. After being a bank clerk, he was appointed Assistant Secretary to the Society for the Encouragement of Art (precursor to the Royal Society of Arts), in which capacity he made many influential friends, who furnished the means for publishing his various translations, which besides Plato and Aristotle, include Proclus, Porphyry, Apuleius, Ocellus Lucanus and other Neoplatonists and Pythagoreans. His aim was the translation of all the untranslated writings of the ancient Greek philosophers.

Taylor was a fervent adherent and admirer of the paganism of the ancient Hellenic world, most especially in the philosophical framework furnished by Plato and the Neoplatonists Proclus and the "most divine" Iamblichus, whose works he translated into English. So enamoured was he of the ancients, that he and his wife talked to one another only in classical Greek.

He was also an outspoken voice against the corruption and vice he saw in the Christianity of his day, and its shallowness, inauthenticity and spiritual inefficacy. For this critique and for his paganism, Taylor was ridiculed in his day and acquired many enemies, although in other quarters he was very well received.

Taylor also published several original works on philosophy (in particular, the Neoplatonism of Proclus and Iamblichus) and mathematics. These works are now published (some for the first time since Taylor's lifetime) by Prometheus Trust.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Taylor

[Antiokos]

Thomas Taylor was one of the outstanding translators of the philosophical writings of the Greeks and Romans, and also published several original works on philosophy and mathematics. Many of his important contributions in these fields have been long out-of-print and are extremely difficult to obtain, having been issued in very small editions. Most of Taylor's translations have an archaic elegance which preserves the spirit of the older authors in a manner not evident in more recent translations. Taylor added notes and commentaries which give valuable insight into essential meaning which is often obscure in the actual texts. Thomas Taylor died in November, 1835; for his own epitaph he wrote the following appropriate lines:

"Health, strength, and ease, and manhood’s active age, Freely I gave to Plato’s sacred cave.

With Truth’s pure joys, with Fame my days were crown’d, Tho’ Fortune adverse on my labors frown’d."

http://www.prs.org/ttaylor.htm

(In questa pag. l'epitaffio di T. Taylor è sbagliato, io l'ho corretto secondo quanto riportato dall'articolo sottostante di M. P. Hall - sono segnalati dei libri).