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    Predefinito Messe le firme definitive per l' oleodotto russo

    Definiti anche gli ultimi dettagli,il dotto sarà costruito entro 2012 a partire dal 2008 e avrà portata iniziale di 35.000.000 di tonnellate all' anno ,espandibile a 50 milioni.La Russia per la prima volta bypassa i Dardanelli,usando vie di paesi più amici.Allo stesso tempo,cade l' importanza del dotto Baku-Ceyhan in Turchia,visto che il nuovo è più vicino al mercato europeo e con costi inferiori.Il costo della costruzione sarà 900 milioni di euro e il consorzio che amministerà il dotto sarà per 51% russo,24,5% bulgaro,24,5% greco.Il petrolio si aspetta di avere prezzi finali competitivi ,perchè l "affitto di transito" è stato fissato molto basso,a 1$ per tonnellata.I vantaggi sono ovvi per l' intero mercato europeo,anche perchè attualmente è la via per il petrolio caucasico più vicina al territorio europeo in questo momento.In più ancora non è chiaro se la Grecia potrà coprire le sue necessità in petrolio direttamente da Alexandropoulis ,ovviamente a prezzi molto più bassi rispetto ad adesso.(fra poco usciranno i giornali su internet e si saprà di più).

    In più per la Grecia ha valore strategico,perchè da un lato,svalorizza buona parte dell' importanza del dotto Baku-Ceyhan in Turchia e dall' altra,il dotto stesso diventa un' arma politica contro eventuali rivendicazioni territoriali della Turchia verso la Tracia greca (i Russi non sarebbero contenti se il loro dotto si trovasse in un campo di battaglia o in mani turche).

    Le preoccupazioni dello State Department sono venute subito,con visita precedente in questo mese ad Atene del Signor Matt Bryza,che si leggono anche all' articolo,e sono venute in forma di "consiglio" che dobbiamo diversificare le nostre forniture ,per esempio usando petrolio da Azerbaijan (dove operano le ditte americane)...La volta precedente che Rice era venuta ad Atene a dare un simile consiglio ,il consorcio di ditte bulgare private si sono ritirate dal progetto e la loro parte ha dovuto prendersi lo stato bulgaro.

    E un articolo dal BBC:

    Russia clinches Balkan oil deal


    Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a deal in Athens to ship Russian oil to the EU via a pipeline bypassing the busy Bosphorus.
    The 285km (178-mile) pipeline will go overland from Bulgaria's Black Sea port of Burgas to the northern Greek town of Alexandroupolis on the Aegean Sea.
    The deal caps negotiations that have lasted 13 years.
    A Russian consortium will hold a 51% stake in the pipeline. It is expected to be ready in three years' time.
    The consortium brings together state oil firm Rosneft, pipeline monopoly Transneft and a subsidiary of gas giant Gazprom. Bulgaria and Greece will each have 24.5% stakes.
    Prime Ministers Costas Karamanlis of Greece and Sergei Stanishev of Bulgaria joined Mr Putin at the signing ceremony in the Greek capital.
    The pipeline project's estimated cost is 900m euros (£616m; $1.2bn).
    Russian tankers are frequently held up for 10 days at a time as they wait to navigate Turkey's narrow, congested Bosphorus and Dardenelles Straits.
    The removal of these delays should help to bring oil costs down, the BBC's Malcolm Brabant reports from Athens.
    Pipeline diplomacy is helping to reassert Russian influence in the region, he says.
    Earlier this month a senior US State Department official, Matthew Bryza, was in Athens and congratulated the three signatories to the pipeline accord.
    He said the more oil that reached global markets the better. But Mr Bryza added that the United States was concerned that Europe could become too reliant on the Russian energy giant Gazprom as a source of natural gas.
    At least one third of Russian oil exports currently leave by tanker via the Black Sea and Bosphorus Strait.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6453153.stm
    Salute Matt!






    Putin ha parlato con il PM greco anche del gasdotto Grecia-Italia ,per il quale ha ovviamente prima parlato con Prodi durante la visita in Italia.

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    Ahahah.Bryza doveva essere politically correct,visto che ormai non si può cambiare niente,ma ha lanciato frecce al dotto tramite sua... moglie.Zeyno Baran è la moglie turca del Signor Bryza che ha scritto il seguente,perchè ama troppo la Grecia

    Strategic Vision or Strategic Mess?
    Greece should pass on accepting an oil pipeline from Russia.

    By Zeyno Baran & Dimitris Apokis

    By now, almost everyone in Europe is aware of Russia’s use of energy as a political weapon. Even so, as the EU struggles to reach a common stance toward Russia, the Kremlin is about to extend its control over Greek and Bulgarian energy infrastructures—another ominous development in the relationship between Russia and the EU.


    President Putin’s upcoming trip to Athens this week places the Greek leadership in a difficult situation. Greece is expected to approve the Russia-backed Burgas-Alexandroupolis (B-A) oil-pipeline project. If it permits Moscow to create such a valuable infrastructure asset, which will be 51 percent owned by Russia, Athens risks undermining not only its own energy security, but that of the entire European Union. Furthermore, the construction of B-A would strain Greece-Turkey relations.

    Greece should instead take the politically difficult but strategically wise decision to shelve the project, thus maintaining its sovereignty, contributing to European energy security, and preserving the critically important energy partnership that it is developing with Turkey.

    At issue are two interlinked projects: the B-A oil pipeline and the Turkey-Greece-Italy (TGI) gas pipeline. On both, there exist ways to cooperate that would benefit European energy security and diversification away from Russia.

    Increasingly large volumes of oil from Russia and the Caspian flow into the Black Sea and through the Turkish straits to world markets. Since this dangerously narrow and congested waterway cannot handle more oil-tanker traffic, all agree that there is need for at least one bypass pipeline. There are thus several competing proposals for the development of Black Sea export routes, from Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, and Turkey. Of these, however, only the Bulgarian route is directly backed by the Kremlin.

    B-A, which would begin in the Bulgarian Black Sea port of Burgas and end at Alexandroupolis on the Greek Aegean coast, is yet another Russian project undertaken not on a commercial basis, but strictly for political reasons. Some companies have been pressured by Russia to support B-A against their will. Although the Greek government seems to believe that it needs this pipeline for strategic reasons, the pipeline will only damage Greek—and European—interests.

    Deputy Minister of Industry and Energy Andrei Dementiyev, Russia’s coordinator for the B-A project, stated clearly at the beginning of this month, “With Transneft as the operator of this pipeline, we envisage that Burgas-Alexandroupolis would be a de facto part of our own pipeline system.” While the EU is struggling to come up with a common position in working with Russia, if two of its members—Greece and Bulgaria—give control of their pipelines to Russia, they would be damaging EU solidarity. Because the Greek government seems to be locked into thinking it absolutely needs this pipeline, it has agreed to terms that will leave it under Russian control.

    Furthermore, in order to secure oil for B-A, Greece may have to agree to accept the participation of the Russian natural-gas monopoly Gazprom in the separate TGI pipeline—which would entirely negate the whole purpose of a non-Russian gas transit route to Europe. TGI is a win-win project between Turkey and Greece that will deliver Azeri gas to EU markets. Considering Europe’s tremendous need for energy supplies (specifically gas), and in light of Russia’s intimidation-based energy policy towards the EU, access to an alternative source of gas is extremely important. TGI is already making real progress, and by the end of this year Azerbaijan will already start sending small volumes of much-needed gas to Greece via TGI. In nine years Azerbaijan could export one-third of what Russia currently sends to Europe. This significant volume would free the EU to a considerable extent from Moscow’s grip.

    If Greece goes ahead with the B-A pipeline, it will lead to tension with Turkey, which prefers the Samsun-Ceyhan bypass route instead. In its attempt to reduce tanker traffic through the Straits, Turkey itself considered an even shorter bypass oil-pipeline that would end in the Aegean, but dropped it in part due to a number of environmental risks. It is now developing a much longer oil pipeline that would bring oil to the Mediterranean port of Ceyhan.

    Greece needs to be strategic: it doesn’t need the B-A pipeline, especially not the way it is structured, but it does need the TGI gas pipeline, which is dependent on cooperation with Turkey.

    As we have seen before in Lithuania, Poland, and elsewhere, EU and NATO memberships are not sufficient to protect a country from Russian pressure. Now that this is happening again with key EU member and NATO ally Greece, will the transatlantic alliance finally say “enough”?

    The Ukrainian gas crisis in January 2006 brought energy security to the forefront of the EU agenda, finally awakening European nations from the apathy they exhibited towards Russia for many years. In a sign of hope, the EU leaders under the leadership of German Chancellor Angela Merkel began to exhibit this new approach when last week in Brussels she agreed on measures to help Europe reduce its reliance on Russia by 2020. Yet, however hopeful, such measures can never be truly effective if a single member state can undermine them. If Greece does not make the right decision next week, it will surrender to the Kremlin a key piece of the EU’s energy infrastructure—turning this strategic vision into a strategic mess.

    — Zeyno Baran is a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and director of its Center for Eurasian Policy, where Dimitris Apokis, who co-authored this article, is an adjunct fellow.


    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...YyMjhkNzVjZjg=

    Fa ridere ,perchè presenta le cose come il "dotto dei Greci" e il "dotto dei Turchi"...Ma quando mai!!!Semplicemente uno è dotto russo e l' altro americano!Ma non vuole scrivere la verità,cioè che abbiamo pestato i cali al dotto americano in Turchia.Le balle del tipo che "la Turchia si dispiacerà e ci saranno tensioni" è una bufala.Caso mai USA si dispiacerà e ci creerà tensioni tramite la Turchia.

    Che bello,per una volta,abbiamo rotto le scatole noi agli Americani.Per decenni succede il contrario.


    Qui le scappa la verità:

    "EU and NATO memberships are not sufficient to protect a country from Russian pressure. Now that this is happening again with key EU member and NATO ally Greece, will the transatlantic alliance finally say “enough”?"

    Vogliono proteggere la Grecia dalla Russia? L' alleanza translatlantica dovrà "finalmente dire di no"?Allora,è l' alleanza translatlantica che i calli pestati,mica la Grecia...

 

 

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