I patetici e meschini trucchi dei sinistri verso i quotidiani esteri

[Dragonball (POL)]

Prendono gli editoriali dei giornali stranieri di sinistra (senza dirlo ovviamente) e poi cianciano:"La Spagna ha detto...","L'Inghilterra condanna...","La Francia dichiara che...".
No cari miei!
Non č nč la Spagna nč l'Inghilterra nč nessun altro Paese a condannare o a giudicare xenofobo o razzista il governo italiano,ma i quotidiani di una CERTA e PRECISA AREA POLITICA di quei Paesi ad esprimere quelle opinioni,il che non siginifica AFFATTO che i cori sono unanimi in quei Paesi.
I furbi vanno stanati ed esposti al pubblico ludibrio per quello che sono: patetici manipolatori della veritą.

[SPYCAM]

Prendono gli editoriali dei giornali stranieri di sinistra (senza dirlo ovviamente) e poi cianciano:"La Spagna ha detto...","L'Inghilterra condanna...","La Francia dichiara che...".
No cari miei!
Non č nč la Spagna nč l'Inghilterra nč nessun altro Paese a condannare o a giudicare xenofobo o razzista il governo italiano,ma i quotidiani di una CERTA e PRECISA AREA POLITICA di quei Paesi ad esprimere quelle opinioni,il che non siginifica AFFATTO che i cori sono unanimi in quei Paesi.
I furbi vanno stanati ed esposti al pubblico ludibrio per quello che sono: patetici manipolatori della veritą.

Allora visto che tu sei "FURBO" posta i giornali
esteri di centro destra e vediamo cosa dicono
del italia...

ciao Furboneeeee

[MrBojangles]

Allora visto che tu sei "FURBO" posta i giornali
esteri di centro destra e vediamo cosa dicono
del italia...

ciao Furboneeeee

Per DragonBalle la "sinistra" č come Vodafone: tutta intorno a lui ...
("non a caso" il colore sociale Vodafone č il rosso ... )

[Zdenek]

Allora visto che tu sei "FURBO" posta i giornali
esteri di centro destra e vediamo cosa dicono
dell' italia...

ROTFL

Ora si attaccherą a qualche corda ... brasiliana.

[tenerino (POL)]

Prendono gli editoriali dei giornali stranieri di sinistra (senza dirlo ovviamente) e poi cianciano:"La Spagna ha detto...","L'Inghilterra condanna...","La Francia dichiara che...".
No cari miei!
Non č nč la Spagna nč l'Inghilterra nč nessun altro Paese a condannare o a giudicare xenofobo o razzista il governo italiano,ma i quotidiani di una CERTA e PRECISA AREA POLITICA di quei Paesi ad esprimere quelle opinioni,il che non siginifica AFFATTO che i cori sono unanimi in quei Paesi.
I furbi vanno stanati ed esposti al pubblico ludibrio per quello che sono: patetici manipolatori della veritą.

i giornali stranieri riprendono quasi sempre gli articolacci di repubblica... quindi č sempre la stessa partita di giro

[Henry1028 (POL)]

Allora visto che tu sei "FURBO" posta i giornali
esteri di centro destra e vediamo cosa dicono
del italia...

ciao Furboneeeee

Chissą, forse in questo momento si sta impegnando a cercare qualche articolo

[Dragonball (POL)]

Michael, Folkestone, UK

Why is it that people who don't want mass imigration like myself always get called racist by people like you? its got nothing to do with race, but the fact that it has become an open borders policy that i don't agree with.

Shane, Blackburn, England

As anyone may easily verify the rule of law and law enforcement are not usual in Italy. They don't use to respect laws, even the more simple ones (i.e., lights). Now they are keen to smash the weak for their frustration. A mob can't judge or punish. Do you remind a great Lombard, Cesare Beccaria?

giandomenico piluso, milan, italy

Shane in Blackburn - I don't know where to start. How are you defining "third world"? People of different colour? In that case, you're a racist. Or poor people? Ask yourself why they're poor. Would you stop all immigration / emigration worldwide? In that case, what about Brits in Spain?

Michael, Folkestone, UK

To Gordon in Auckland, NZ...

I take it that you are indigenous to New Zealand, so of Mauri origin?

Immigration is fine, if people want to come and work, integrate into their new home, and pay taxes.
Allowing camps to thrive outside the cities, was a bad idea from the start, creating ghettos.

Daniel R, Berkshire, UK,

There is a difference between immigrants and colonists: Immigrands eventually become part of the country they immigrate to, of its economy (working, producing) and adapt to(indeed seek for) the way of life of the host country. Colonists reproduce their gypsy or islamic (or whatever) way of life.

Rui, Lisbon, Portugal

I am very sorry, but Andrea from Lucca is terribly wrong about average wages in USA. Europeans were eager to reach America because of its highest wages untill 1960s-1970s, when European wages converged as a consequence of the economic growht, i.e. productivity. On the contrary, why did we emigrate?

giandomenico piluso, milan, italy

Dear Pascal-Pierre, Eu ( France), me too I had great hope in EU and first I consider myself European, but what kind of Europe do we want? Europe isn't the USA in the 19th or 20th centuries, great spaces with few people, is already overcrowed by Europeans....What to do?

betty, Venezia, Italia

It seems to me that the main legal trouble in Naples, as in many other areas in Southern Italy, is stemming from the existence of a mighty criminal organisation, camorra, a sort of mafia. Nonetheless, when a country is declining an external enemy is provided. A feeble minority could be fit...

giandomenico piluso, milan, italy

So let's analyze the situation. Three days ago a gang of italian underage boys killed and burned a girl; yesterday an italian man abused of a romanian girl; today a boy has been found undressing and filming a 13 years old girl. Yes I think crime in Italy is all immigrants fault!

Raffaele Calvia, Trieste, Italiy

John, Placentia, OC, California: Rep. or Dem. are not very different : the US have another history. Without immigration the US never existed. The Europeans are different. American job was always cheap: the US had slaves in their tradition. Luckily Italians never had slaves.

andrea, lucca, Italy

Micheal, Folkstone, UK

Come up to Blackburn and see what mass imigration is realy like on a large scale, large areas are nolonger English but more like the third world, invite large amounts of people from the third world to live in your country and what do you think you get? the 3rd world,period

Shane, Blackburn, England

andrea, lucca, italy: John McCain said on Fox News last week that he will NOT enforce US boarder control law and deport illegal immigrants. The Republicans want cheap labor and they make money running illegal immigrants across the boarder. The problem is growing here in the US.

John, Placentia, OC California

Oh, and something else. To the rascists, with an obvious lack of geographical knowledge, posting here; I'd like to remind you that the Roma and Romanian people are actually citizens of the EU, with, at least in principle, the same rights as you or I.

Norman, Udine, Italy

1) We should not enlarge Shengen to Romania and Bulgaria. The last enlargement is enough 2) Shengen Countries (EU countries + Norway and Iceland and without UK and Ireland) should develop a strong common policy on immigration from external countries.

Horace, Florence, Italy

Shane in Blackburn - your own name means 'God is gracious' and comes from a Hebrew origin. Which country do you want back?? A country where football 'fans' run riot stuffed with alcohol or one where people try simply to live, to eat a bit of bread every day?

Connor, London,

The problem of immigration is not only criminal and illegal immigrants, but that Italians don't want to be invaded by foreign people for which there is no jobs, no houses, no place. If the pope has problems, he could invite immigrants in his state. Long life to Lega Nord

vale, venice, Italy

Two days ago an italian baby-gang(all underage) killed and burned a girl; yesterday an italian man abused of a romanian young girl; today an italian boy was found making porn movies with a 13 years old girl. Yes most obviously the italian problem are immigrants; otherwise we'd be saints.

Raffaele Calvia, Trieste, Italiy

the EU can only work with states and people that share the same ideals and culture. face it!
What is happeneing is cruel...maybe, but too much is too much. Why blame our transalpine neighbors ?

pascal-pierre, Dinan, EU (France)

How can you say that you want this to spread to the rest of Europe? It is only uncontrolled in migration into the UK that hasa kept our economy stable in recent years becuase many migrants are prepared to take jobs which they are terribly over qualified for because Britains are to lazy to work.

Matt, Birmingham,

We are not even aloud to speak of the problem and have to act in denial in the UK about the problem. It does take place, everyone knows it, I have been a victim of who we dare not speak of many times. PC, and Liberal lefty attitudes have made this nation an open prison.

Kinny, Cambridge, UK

Andrea - "The US don't permit illegal immigration in the US". Not sure where you heard that but at conservative estimates there are at least 20 million illegal immigrants here. Years of inaction and lack of enforcement of the immigration rules have resulted in a complete mess here in the US.

ExPat, TX, USA

To P D Cunninghan, Camden, USA: how to help the countries where the immigrants come from?

Luca, Pisa, Italy

First they came for the gypsies...

Michael, Folkestone, UK

If the government allows unlimited immigration, what do you expect?

I can see it here one day.....

....it'll probably start with non-integrating sections or areas of our cities

Phil, Preston,

this should happen across europe...in italy, it is a start!

tom reid, london,

Bravo, forza Napoli! Hopefully just the start of the rebellion against the disaster of uncontrolled immigration into Europe. Fingers crossed it will spread into the UK.

Garley, London, UK

So the Roma are from a nomadic background and have a distinct culture.

Just like the Tibetans, then?

Wheres Mia Farrow when you need her?

Pete, Cov,

Gypsies don't work to live, you know. The guilty are those left-wing majors who in past years opened nomad camps around Italy cities. Lazio has 15.000 camps, Lombardy about 7.000.
Then there are illegal emigrants who live with crimes. The US don't permit illegal immigration in the US.

andrea, lucca, italy

Mohammed, You are true in saying that if they are dirt poor we cannot blame them for stealing food, but if you read the article it notes that this situtaion was ignited by
the theft of a baby, not some bread, which is a little different dont you think?
And fear my lord?? No thanks I dont have one

Bill Reminder, Leicester,

Its about time the indigenous people had a say as to who comes to live in their country especially when the illegals commit crime. The politicians should show some guts and deport them immediately.

gordon, auckland, nz

Didnt the Nazi's call concentration camps 'detention centres'?
My government (past and present) and its police should be ashamed of themselves for letting a Mob do this. Whether we like it or not, the Roma are here under EC laws, which we benefit from. Maybe we should burn the parliament instead.

MB, Milano, Italy

Its vital to distinguish between Roma and Romanians generally.

The Roma issue is a European one....and not just the EU. Roma are a distinct people who have historically transcended borders. Their problems and the problems they present must be addressed globally.

Charles Bell, Cluj Napoca, Romania

it seems that xenophobia is everywhere lately, the fact that these people live if shanty towns means they have no money, so if they have no money and no job how on earth can they be blamed for stealing food?

People dont live on the streets out of choice! Have some compassion and fear your lord!!!

Mohammed, birmingham, UK

Good God! Must people resort to violence to sort this out? Hopefully, responsible people from both communities can come forward and work on the problem. Crime and illegal occupation of land are problems but there are better ways to correct them. Populist politicians exploit it for their benefit.

Armando, New Jersey, USA

Since when is tackling ILLEGAL immigration called racism?
Immigration is a key part to Italy's development both economically and socially, especially now that population growth is next to nothing. However this immigration must be controlled and it must be LEGAL.

Sebastian, Milano, Italia

The problem is that all the italian media keep marking all crimes done by immigrants and try to avoid talking about "italian crimes". Today a young romanian girl has been threatened with a knife and forced to sexual abuses from a 39 years old italian man and no TV news talked about that. Xenophobia.

Raffaele Calvia, Trieste, Italiy

Thank God for Mr Berlusconi and the Liga Nord.

Has common sense finally begun to break out on the Continent?

I am not yet convinced. I will be, though, when we march on Brussels...

Eriks Laimins, Riga, Latvia

When right wing Italian politicians talk of the "Roma problem" we should be worried, before long they will be talking about the "Muslim problem", the "Jewish problem" and so on...

Oliver, London,

I agree with your sentiments that illegal immigration should be stopped, but even Maggie Thatcher could not prevent it so how is it the fault of "The liberals who allow unbridled illegal immigration into the EU"
The answer is to help the countries these people come from so they dont want to leave.

P D Cunningham, Camden, USA

What the article doesn't say is that this horrible situation has been mostly caused by the appalling inefficiency of our judicial system and police apparatus. But there are too many politicos here who intensely dislike efficient courts and effective police forces...

Vittorio Caffe', Rome, Italy

When are the socialists going to get it in there heads that mass imigration DOES NOT WORK, i for one want my country back.

shane, blackburn, England

This is just the beginning, our new Berlusconi's Governement will certainly solve this problem and in Italy we will be able to live again safely and relaxed.

Roberto Castellano, Salsomaggiore, Italy

we should do the same here in the UK to non EU migrants

Neil, London, UK

Here we go again.

martyn, calvia, Scotland

The liberals who allow unbridled illegal immigration into the EU are responsible for what is happening in Naples as well as those public officials who are indifferent to the degradation of the urban environment and infrastructure by Roma camps and too many illegal immigrants. This is not racism .

mark, Ibrag, Malta


Un po' di opinioni dei lettori britannici del Times.

P.S.
Sinistri,adesso non non scrivete commenti all'articolo del Times firmandovi con falsi nomignoli inglesi per tentare di riequilibrare la situazione.

[MrBojangles]

Chissą, forse in questo momento si sta impegnando a cercare qualche articolo

[Henry1028 (POL)]

Che carino Dragonball ... vive in un mondo tutto suo, convinto che la politica in Italia esista ancora

[Zdenek]

Un po' di opinioni dei lettori britannici del Times.

Perdinci!!
Che autorevole statistica.

Con i commenti dei lettori de "Il Giornale" si potrebbe anche alimentare il moto perpetuo.