Robert
08-06-17, 10:39
Come sapete, uno dei nodi di disputa più frequenti fra paesi sono i confini e come vengono tracciati, senza pensare al futuro
nella Yugoslavia Tito aveva riservato alla riottosa e poco comunista Slovenia un braccio di mare ridicolo, decisamente sottostimato, mentre aveva garantito alla "propria" patria (era croato) centinaia e centinaia di km
implosa la Yugoslavia è scoppiato il caso dei confini marittimi, ufficialmente il torrente Dragogna senza la frontiere fra le due nazione, ma quando il problema sorge quando tale fiumiciattolo sfocia in mare, gli sloveni vorrebbero interpretare la proiezione del fiume in senso più orizzontale per prendere più acqua e soprattutto, cosa fondamentale, avere un corridoio libero, mentre ora devono sempre chiedere il permesso per uscire (sono chiusi ad imbuto), i croati naturalmente pretendono una proiezione più verticalizzante...
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/file/show//Images/Images.New/Places/Croatia/Disputed%20waters%20in%20the%20Piran%20Gulf%20640. %20Photo%20Wikimedia%20Commons%20AnonMoos.jpg
http://www.limesonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Baia_di_Pirano_5001.jpg
tutta lo svolgimento della diatribia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia%E2%80%93Slovenia_border_disputes
ebbene...
Croazia-Slovenia: conclusa procedura arbitrato su disputa confini, sentenza sarà annunciata nei prossimi mesi
Zagabria , 27 apr 09:22 - (Agenzia Nova) - Il tribunale permanente di arbitrato dell'Aia ha annunciato di avere concluso la procedura sul contenzioso sui confini tra la Croazia e la...
La Croazia aveva annunciato di avere abbandonato la procedura di arbitrato internazionale dopo avere riscontrato una serie di irregolarità... (Zac) © Agenzia Nova - Riproduzione riservata
https://www.agenzianova.com/a/5901b7684449a1.26227135/1553766/2017-04-27/croazia-slovenia-conclusa-procedura-arbitrato-su-disputa-confini-sentenza-sara-annunciata-nei-prossimi-mesi/linked
in realtà, come spiega l'articolo in inglese, il Tribunale dell'Aja non ha ancora preso alcuna decisione ma semplicemente ha comunicato di aver ritirato tutti i documenti e istanze dai due paesi:
A tribunal overseeing a territorial dispute between Croatia and Slovenia has closed hearings and will issue an award in the coming months, The Hague's Permanent Court of Arbitration said Wednesday.
The Dutch arbitral body announced that a March 29 letter from the tribunal said it found no need for any further submissions from the two countries at the arbitration proceedings, which involve a dispute surrounding the maritime and land boundary between the two Slavic states.
“The tribunal thus declared the hearings closed in accordance with the applicable rules of procedure,” the PCA said. “The tribunal further indicated that it planned to render a final award in the proceedings in the coming months.”
The tribunal has been tasked with determining the location of the boundary and how the disputed areas can be used, according to the PCA, which is acting as registry in the proceedings.
Trouble regarding ex parte communications with an appointed arbitrator began in July 2015, when Serbian and Croatian newspapers reported that certain telephone calls in which confidential information about the tribunal's deliberations was disclosed were intercepted.
Croatia eventually demanded that the tribunal discontinue the proceedings, arguing that the official record of the entire arbitration had been irreparably “contaminated.”
The PCA said in the following June that a tribunal had held that while Slovenia had violated provisions of the countries' arbitration agreement by engaging in ex parte contact with an appointed arbitrator, the violation was not so egregious as to affect the tribunal's ability to issue an independent and impartial award.
Slovenian media reported in November 2016 that Croatia abandoned the arbitration claiming the U.S. recorded a conversation between Slovenian Commissioner for Arbitration Simona Drenik and Jernej Sekolec, a Slovenian arbiter at the border dispute arbitration proceedings. The reports said that a Slovenian constitutional judge had heard that the U.S. gave that recording to Croatia to “spite Slovenia due to its rapprochement with Russia,” according to Total Croatia News. Drenik and Sekolec each later resigned.
Later in November, Croatian media outlets reported that the American embassy in Ljubljana, Slovenia, denied reports that the CIA turned over to Croatia recordings of talks between Drenik and Sekolec.
“We deny allegations that the United States gave Croatia recordings in connection with the border arbitration proceedings,” the embassy said at the time, as quoted on Slovenian television. “We have clearly said to both Slovenia and Croatia that we will not take sides in their dispute. Resolving of bilateral disputes between member states of the EU and NATO is within the jurisdiction of both governments and we are confident that they will find a solution.”
Counsel for Slovenia declined to comment Wednesday. Representatives for Croatia could not be reached for comment.
Slovenia is represented by Rodman R. Bundy of Eversheds LLP, Alain Pellet and Michael Wood of 20 Essex Street.
Croatia is not participating in the arbitration.
The case is The Arbitration Between the Republic of Croatia and the Republic of Slovenia, case number 2012-04, in the Permanent Court of Arbitration.
https://www.law360.com/articles/917540/decision-coming-on-croatia-slovenia-territorial-dispute
la domanda del sondaggio è su come si sarà espressa la corte dell'Aja, in senso favorevole alla Slovenia, quindi garantendole il corridoio e una "proiezione" del Dragogna in senso più meridionale o invece darà ragione alla Croazia?
nella Yugoslavia Tito aveva riservato alla riottosa e poco comunista Slovenia un braccio di mare ridicolo, decisamente sottostimato, mentre aveva garantito alla "propria" patria (era croato) centinaia e centinaia di km
implosa la Yugoslavia è scoppiato il caso dei confini marittimi, ufficialmente il torrente Dragogna senza la frontiere fra le due nazione, ma quando il problema sorge quando tale fiumiciattolo sfocia in mare, gli sloveni vorrebbero interpretare la proiezione del fiume in senso più orizzontale per prendere più acqua e soprattutto, cosa fondamentale, avere un corridoio libero, mentre ora devono sempre chiedere il permesso per uscire (sono chiusi ad imbuto), i croati naturalmente pretendono una proiezione più verticalizzante...
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/file/show//Images/Images.New/Places/Croatia/Disputed%20waters%20in%20the%20Piran%20Gulf%20640. %20Photo%20Wikimedia%20Commons%20AnonMoos.jpg
http://www.limesonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Baia_di_Pirano_5001.jpg
tutta lo svolgimento della diatribia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia%E2%80%93Slovenia_border_disputes
ebbene...
Croazia-Slovenia: conclusa procedura arbitrato su disputa confini, sentenza sarà annunciata nei prossimi mesi
Zagabria , 27 apr 09:22 - (Agenzia Nova) - Il tribunale permanente di arbitrato dell'Aia ha annunciato di avere concluso la procedura sul contenzioso sui confini tra la Croazia e la...
La Croazia aveva annunciato di avere abbandonato la procedura di arbitrato internazionale dopo avere riscontrato una serie di irregolarità... (Zac) © Agenzia Nova - Riproduzione riservata
https://www.agenzianova.com/a/5901b7684449a1.26227135/1553766/2017-04-27/croazia-slovenia-conclusa-procedura-arbitrato-su-disputa-confini-sentenza-sara-annunciata-nei-prossimi-mesi/linked
in realtà, come spiega l'articolo in inglese, il Tribunale dell'Aja non ha ancora preso alcuna decisione ma semplicemente ha comunicato di aver ritirato tutti i documenti e istanze dai due paesi:
A tribunal overseeing a territorial dispute between Croatia and Slovenia has closed hearings and will issue an award in the coming months, The Hague's Permanent Court of Arbitration said Wednesday.
The Dutch arbitral body announced that a March 29 letter from the tribunal said it found no need for any further submissions from the two countries at the arbitration proceedings, which involve a dispute surrounding the maritime and land boundary between the two Slavic states.
“The tribunal thus declared the hearings closed in accordance with the applicable rules of procedure,” the PCA said. “The tribunal further indicated that it planned to render a final award in the proceedings in the coming months.”
The tribunal has been tasked with determining the location of the boundary and how the disputed areas can be used, according to the PCA, which is acting as registry in the proceedings.
Trouble regarding ex parte communications with an appointed arbitrator began in July 2015, when Serbian and Croatian newspapers reported that certain telephone calls in which confidential information about the tribunal's deliberations was disclosed were intercepted.
Croatia eventually demanded that the tribunal discontinue the proceedings, arguing that the official record of the entire arbitration had been irreparably “contaminated.”
The PCA said in the following June that a tribunal had held that while Slovenia had violated provisions of the countries' arbitration agreement by engaging in ex parte contact with an appointed arbitrator, the violation was not so egregious as to affect the tribunal's ability to issue an independent and impartial award.
Slovenian media reported in November 2016 that Croatia abandoned the arbitration claiming the U.S. recorded a conversation between Slovenian Commissioner for Arbitration Simona Drenik and Jernej Sekolec, a Slovenian arbiter at the border dispute arbitration proceedings. The reports said that a Slovenian constitutional judge had heard that the U.S. gave that recording to Croatia to “spite Slovenia due to its rapprochement with Russia,” according to Total Croatia News. Drenik and Sekolec each later resigned.
Later in November, Croatian media outlets reported that the American embassy in Ljubljana, Slovenia, denied reports that the CIA turned over to Croatia recordings of talks between Drenik and Sekolec.
“We deny allegations that the United States gave Croatia recordings in connection with the border arbitration proceedings,” the embassy said at the time, as quoted on Slovenian television. “We have clearly said to both Slovenia and Croatia that we will not take sides in their dispute. Resolving of bilateral disputes between member states of the EU and NATO is within the jurisdiction of both governments and we are confident that they will find a solution.”
Counsel for Slovenia declined to comment Wednesday. Representatives for Croatia could not be reached for comment.
Slovenia is represented by Rodman R. Bundy of Eversheds LLP, Alain Pellet and Michael Wood of 20 Essex Street.
Croatia is not participating in the arbitration.
The case is The Arbitration Between the Republic of Croatia and the Republic of Slovenia, case number 2012-04, in the Permanent Court of Arbitration.
https://www.law360.com/articles/917540/decision-coming-on-croatia-slovenia-territorial-dispute
la domanda del sondaggio è su come si sarà espressa la corte dell'Aja, in senso favorevole alla Slovenia, quindi garantendole il corridoio e una "proiezione" del Dragogna in senso più meridionale o invece darà ragione alla Croazia?