Ma guarda quante cose fa questa Cina

[trenta81]

Dall'unico video che è a disposizione si vedono manifestanti che lanciano pietre, incendiano e linciano. Il corteo pacifico se lo sono invente le organizzazione di sostegno al terrorismo yuguro ospitate a Whasington.
tutto è nato dal fatto che due yuguri hanno violentato una ragazza han. Almeno così sembra.
Washington ha aiutato i terrorista afgani contro l'URSS e ha avuto in cambio l'11 settembre, Adesso magari i terroristi per ringraziarli sganceranno una atomica su NY.

ma i cinsei non hanno permesso ai uighuri di combattere contro l'invasore sovietico in afgahanistan? (grande paese comunista)

mi sa che gl'uighuri si sono ritorti contro

[Red Shadow]

ma i cinsei non hanno permesso ai uighuri di combattere contro l'invasore sovietico in afgahanistan? (grande paese comunista)

mi sa che gl'uighuri si sono ritorti contro

Cazzate.Figuriamoci. Dalla Cina negli anni '80 si poteva espatriare liberamente come si fa adesso. La Cina ha sempre condannato come terroristiche le organizzazioni filo-islamiste. Queste sono puttanate messo in giro dai gruppi con residenza americana.

[trenta81]

Cazzate.Figuriamoci. Dalla Cina negli anni '80 si poteva espatriare liberamente come si fa adesso. La Cina ha sempre condannato come terroristiche le organizzazioni filo-islamiste. Queste sono puttanate messo in giro dai gruppi con residenza americana.

quindi gl'ammericani hanno fatto bene ad invadere l'afghanistan perche cera al quaeda essendo una organizzazione terroristica filo islamista? perche se la cina condanna ed è giusto allora

[Feliks]

quindi gl'ammericani hanno fatto bene ad invadere l'afghanistan perche cera al quaeda essendo una organizzazione terroristica filo islamista? perche se la cina condanna ed è giusto allora

abbiamo sempre saputo che la logica non è il tuo forte, ma qui si esagera.

[Marximiliano]

link? no perché io ancora non l'ho letta da nessuna parte

poi dovresti darmi la tua definizione di "corteo pacifico", che probabilmente non coincide né con la mia né con la lingua italiana corrente

Il terzo articolo dell'Ansa è cambiato. Prima diceva quello che ho scritto io

http://libero-news.it/pills/view/15580
http://www.repubblica.it/2009/07/sez...a-scontri.html
http://www.ilgiornale.it/a.pic1?ID=364393
http://www.ilmessaggero.it/articolo....=HOME_NELMONDO
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in un comunicato inviato ad alcuni mezzi d'informazione stranieri in Cina, hanno affermato che migliaia di uomini di quattro diversi corpi militari e paramilitari cinesi ieri hanno usato fucili automatici e mezzi corazzati contro una manifestazione pacifica
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Ma il governo di Pechino non è criticabile :gratgrat:

[Feliks]

Il terzo articolo dell'Ansa è cambiato. Prima diceva quello che ho scritto io

http://libero-news.it/pills/view/15580
http://www.repubblica.it/2009/07/sez...a-scontri.html
http://www.ilgiornale.it/a.pic1?ID=364393
http://www.ilmessaggero.it/articolo....=HOME_NELMONDO
"
in un comunicato inviato ad alcuni mezzi d'informazione stranieri in Cina, hanno affermato che migliaia di uomini di quattro diversi corpi militari e paramilitari cinesi ieri hanno usato fucili automatici e mezzi corazzati contro una manifestazione pacifica
"

Ma il governo di Pechino non è criticabile :gratgrat:

il nyt pubblica un articolo molto lungo e ponderato, ben differente dalla stupida propaganda italiana

[MaRcO88]

abbiamo sempre saputo che la logica non è il tuo forte, ma qui si esagera.

:giagia:

[MaRcO88]

quindi gl'ammericani hanno fatto bene ad invadere l'afghanistan perche cera al quaeda essendo una organizzazione terroristica filo islamista? perche se la cina condanna ed è giusto allora

chiaramente invadere un paese è uguale a condannare le organizzazioni filo islamiste nel proprio territorio..

[Red Shadow]

A porposito della mancanza di libertà in Cina. Traggo dal forum in inglese del ChinaDaily maggiore quotidiano cinese:

Forumista augusten :

CIA and riot in Xinjiang

The CIA and riot in Xinjiang

Are the CIA and its friends trying to break up China?

On 6 June 2009, we learn that about 140 people have been killed and more than 800 injured in violence in the city of Urumqi in China's Xinjiang region. (China's Xinjiang hit by violence)

Relations between the Han Chinese community and the minority Muslim Uyghurs are tense.

The Uyghurs, a Muslim minority from the autonomous region Xinjiang (Western China), are seeking the secession of their region "East Turkestan" from the People's Republic of China.

In 2007, http://www.german-foreign-policy.com/en/fulltext/56104 had an article about China.

From this we learn:

1. German foreign policy makers have held talks with Chinese separatists.

The Munich based "World Uyghur Congress (WUC)" announced its president, US-based Rebiya Kadeer, was received by the German foreign ministry.

Berlin has been escalating its anti-Beijing secessionist offensive.

Germany - and intelligence circles - have been cultivating relations with Uyghur exiled politicians.

'Current transatlantic activities promoting anti-Chinese separatism and weakening Beijing, are based on decades of German-US cooperation.'

2. Erkin Alptekin, a Uyghur living in exile, is one of the main players and he has CIA links.

Erkin Alptekin moved to Munich in 1971, where he became "Senior Policy Advisor" to the director of the US station "Radio Liberty".

It was at that time that the CIA began to establish contacts to Uyghurs seeking secession.

"Some, like Erkin Alptekin, who have worked for the CIA's Radio Liberty, are - in the meantime - on the forefront of the secessionist movement" writes analyst B. Raman, the former Indian government's cabinet secretary.

3. In Munich, Alptekin founded the "East Turkestan Union in Europe" in 1991; and in April 2004 he founded the "World Uyghur Congress" and became its founding president.

'From German territory, the congress is steering numerous Uyghur exile organizations around the world, of which some must be classified as being in the terrorist milieu, according to Chinese government information.'

4. The Munich based exile movement seeks to merge the Uyghur secessionist movement with the Tibetan and the Mongolian movements.

It seeks to break up China.

In 1985, former CIA advisor Alptekin participated in the foundation of the "Allied Committee of the Peoples of East Turkestan, Tibet and Inner Mongolia".

5. Rebiya Kadeer is continuing Alptekin's activities - and is also receiving German-US American support.

Her husband works for Radio Free Asia, the Asian counterpart to Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, also said to have close links to the CIA.

Forumista yasawakic ( probabilmente non-cinese):

Favorite scapping dog, favorite song: CIA: can explain all the problem of china:

My poor dumb, your dangerous game of relaying a so stupid propaganda is just going to ake things worst and worst.

There are no CIA, no Dark Vador, only an historical relation beween West China and East China, this relation have never been worst than now, the only reason is the hate that is instigated by the acculturation policy of beijing. I'm sorry, there are several similar example around the world where the CIA cause iseven no needed.

As usually: not even ONE uigr to give his opinion, and all we know why, just see how unacceptable are the conditions for a tbt or a uigr to use internet.

So, you can and you will continue to relay your mad propaganda, your CIA consiracy, (gosh the cia is really everywhere, how did they find so many people to destabilize the biggest country in the world), in fact, it is just always disgusting and reveal your weak that any problem of your country is "always" and 'systematically' caused by CIA, zionist, Batman or Dharamsala. People who believe such stupid things are really dumbs.

And what a pity that nobody here give us an honest report of the han/non han historic relations in West china.
a good source:le pouvoir en chantant (power by singing): this thesis by a han/uigr linguist show how chnse govnmet hide a "bureau of ethnic affairs" wich have been created only for an acculturation work in order to unify the country: that's why so many languages and cultures hae disappear , have been reduced to zoo-show, and that's why non-han hide their ressemtiment against han.

Un botta e risposta. il secondo forumista ha 480 post al suo attivo e continua a scrivere pur essendo, come dire, prevenuto contro la Cina.

[Red Shadow]

Ciò che nessuno dice 233 cinesi vittime per il pogrom dei fanatici uyghur negli ospedali contro 33 uyghur

Eyewitness accounts of Xinjiang riots(Xinhua)
Updated: 2009-07-07 00:05

URUMQI: Returning to his Geely automobile store, Guo Jianxin was still frightened by the nightmare Sunday.

"Fortunately I managed to leave," said the general manager of the store in Urumqi, capital of northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region.
"It was about 10 p.m. and I found rioters outside," he said. The manager called more than 20 workers from the store, who had already left after a day's work.
Firemen put out a fire in Dawannanlu Street in Urumqi, capital of northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region Sunday July 5, 2009. [Xinhua]
"I asked them to help protect the store, but there were too many rioters...more than 100, holding knives, clubs and stones," said Guo, an ethnic Hui.Failing to dissuade the rioters from entering the store, Guo led his workers to flee. They hid on a hill beside the store.
The three-storey building was ablaze, while more than 30 new cars in the store were all torched. One worker's arm was broken and he was sent to hospital.
Opposite the store was a shop owned by a Han couple. They told Xinhua reporter that they saw rioters on the streets after 10 p.m., immediately shut the door and escaped.
When they returned, the couple found that their shop was burned, some 20,000 yuan (US$2,941) and a camera in the counter was gone.
But they didn't complain much. Next door, a young worker from the southwestern Sichuan Province was beaten to death.

In The Hospital

China is shocked by a death toll of 140 which is still climbing. Rioters also burned 261 motor vehicles, including 190 buses, at least 10 taxis and two police cars, Sunday evening in the city.The People's Hospital, one of the biggest hospitals in Xinjiang's capital Urumqi, treated 291 riot victims, among whom 17 died later.
Among them, 233 were Han people, 39 were Uygurs, while the rest were from other ethnic minorities like Hui and Kazak, said Wang Faxing, president of the hospital.
In the ICU wards on the 13th floor, more than 20 seriously injured were being treated. They, all in comas, had wounds to the head or the chest and limbs.
Zhu Haifeng is a 16-year-old student from the No.43 Middle School, who was assaulted on the way home after school. He was knocked on the head and his eyes were swollen.
According to an unnamed doctor, Zhu's parents had been looking for him after the riot, but failed to contact him via mobile phone as the line was cut temporarily.
"When they found their fainted son, they could hardly recognize him," said the doctor.
The 48-year-old Li Quanli with bandages around his head is a police officer. Seeing several youngsters smashing a No.7 bus, he hurried to stop them, but was surrounded and beaten.