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    Predefinito La coerenza USA

    Due notizie di oggi:


    14.34 - IRAQ: TORTURE; I PEGGIORI ABUSI IN NOVEMBRE, NYT. I peggiori abusi a Abu Ghraib si sarebbero svolti nel novembre 2003. Lo scrive oggi il New York Times.
    Gli abusi, secondo il rapporto del generale Antonio Taguba sulle torture a Abu Ghraib adesso accessibile su Internet, avrebbero dato seguito alle raccomandazioni del generale Geoffrey Miller, allora comandante della base-prigione di Guantanamo, per modifiche nelle procedure "tese a sfruttare rapidamente i detenuti per informazioni di intelligence da usare sul campo".
    Apprendiamo quindi che e' stato Miller (il comandante di Guantanamo) a "suggerire" di torturare gli Iracheni...


    Benissimo cosa hanno fatto gli USA a proposito?


    Ma si....


    Indovinato....


    ...Hanno inviato Miller in Iraq a prendersi cura DIRETTAMENTE dei prigionieri iracheni!!!!!!!



    Guardian

    Gen. Miller Set to Command Iraq Prisons


    Wednesday May 5, 2004 8:01 AM

    By PAISLEY DODDS

    Associated Press Writer

    SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) - The Army major general appointed to run Iraq's prisons in fallout of a major scandal weathered controversy in his last assignment overseeing the detainment center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

    Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller spent more than a year at Guantanamo Bay, boasting that detainees there had become much more cooperative during his time there. But he was in charge during a time when one interrogator was accused of espionage and human rights groups leveled their most scathing criticism at the camp.

    The career military officer from Menard, Texas, began his time at Guantanamo with tough talk.

    ``If you attack America, then you, too, could end up in Guantanamo,'' Miller, 55, said in a fiery warning as he took control of the U.S. prison camp for terror suspects on Cuba's eastern tip.

    He softened his tone soon after arriving at Guantanamo in October 2002, promising to release detainees who didn't pose a threat and to increase information from uncooperative prisoners.

    Miller was appointed to the Iraq job last month, replacing Gen. Janis Karpinski. She was suspended amid investigations into the allegations that U.S. soldiers abused Iraqi inmates at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison.

    In response to the claims in Iraq, Miller on Tuesday said he would eliminate some interrogation techniques considered humiliating, such as the hooding of prisoners.

    By the end of his stint at Guantanamo in March, the square-jawed Miller said intelligence tips at the U.S. prison camp had increased dramatically and that detainees, accused of links to Afghanistan's ousted Taliban regime or the al-Qaida terror network, were being more cooperative.

    He said three-fourths of the approximate 600 detainees had confessed to some involvement in terrorism and many had exposed former friends.

    He attributed those success to a reward system he started, which included the opportunity for detainees to live communally in a medium-security prison and to get extra perks, such as packets of sugar or exercise time.

    But Miller's time in Guantanamo was not all smooth.

    Under his watch, one interrogator was charged with espionage and is up for court martial this month. Another interrogator was charged with transporting secret documents; his case is pending. A Muslim chaplain - and close adviser to Miller - was charged with mishandling classified information and adultery, though those charges were recently dropped.

    Miller also faced steady criticism from human rights groups over the U.S. detention mission itself, which they say is abusive. None of the detainees have been charged yet, and some have been held for more than two years. The U.S. government has yet to agree on a date for tribunals.

    In a rare public rebuke, the International Red Cross condemned the prolonged detentions at Guantanamo in October, saying that mental instability and attempted suicides among detainees indicated severe problems with the U.S. operation.

    Miller, who said his deployment to Guantanamo would likely last for two years, always contended that the detainees were being treated humanely.

    Coming from an assignment in South Korea, Miller succeeded Brig. Gen. Rick Baccus, who left Guantanamo after complaints from some interrogators that he was too concerned about prisoner treatment.

    Some former prisoners who returned to Afghanistan recently complained of torture at Guantanamo, saying they were abused and deprived of sleep - similar allegations to those made by former Iraqi prisoners.

    Officials at Guantanamo say interrogations are often done at night but deny mistreating detainees. And unlike the situation in Iraq, there have been no U.S. military punishments over alleged abuses at the Cuban prison.


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    Come "ambasciatore" iracheno invece e' stato nominato Negroponte... Altra garanzia... Anche lui giustamente esperto in "human rights violations"....



    John Negroponte was ambassador to Honduras from 1981-1985. As such he supported and carried out a US-sponsored policy of violations to human rights and international law. Among other things he supervised the creation of the El Aguacate air base, where the US trained Nicaraguan Contras during the 1980's. The base was used as a secret detention and torture center, in August 2001 excavations at the base discovered the first of the corpses of the 185 people, including two Americans, who are thought to have been killed and buried at this base.

    During his ambassadorship, human rights violations in Honduras became systematic. The infamous Battalion 316, trained by the CIA and Argentine military, kidnaped, tortured and killed hundreds of people. Negroponte knew about these human rights violations and yet continued to collaborate with them, while lying to Congress.

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    E poi ovviamente c'e' la CIA ed i servizi segreti militari...

    dal corriere:

    Ryder ha fornito particolari raccapriccianti sulla morte del primo prigioniero: il soldato lo avrebbe ucciso a colpi di pietra, e sarebbe stato cacciato dall'esercito ma non incriminato né imprigionato.
    L'autore del secondo omicidio, il «contractor» della Cia, non sarebbe ancora stato punito, né si sa se mai lo sarà.
    Inutile dirvi che il "contractor" della CIA e' chiaramente una agente dei servizi segreti USA... Inutile dirvi che il "contractor" non era in vacanza in iraq ma eseguiva ordini precisi del suo governo...

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    Insomma non credo proprio si possa parlare di "casi isolati" e "mele marce"...

 

 

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