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43 US Soldiers Killed, 8 Captured Together With 20 Iraqi National Guards, According to Independent News

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43 US Soldiers Killed, 8 Captured Together With 20 Iraqi National Guards, According to Independent News

Al-Jazeerah, November 10, 2004, 5:15 ET

The following headline news are from an internet website, called Islam Memo (http://www.islammemo.cc/), that reports from Iraqi cities. Some US TV stations mentioned the capture of 20 Iraqi National Guards but not about the 44 US soldiers this website claims have been captured.

Al-Jazeerah.info does not have the resources to verify the following news, particularly the number of captured US soldiers, from US media units or any other sources.




Falluja Fighters showing 20 Iraqi National Guards they captured during the fighting in a Video tape broadcast by aljazeera tv. They also claimed to have captured 8 US soldiers on Tuesday. They sent a video tape of them to aljazeera tv but the satellite station did not air it because of US pressures. (Islam Memo, 11/10/04).



Fighting has not stopped in all Falluja neighborhoods. The Iraqi resistance control the city at night. A number of US soldiers were captured by Falluja fighters yesterday who are in control of two US Hummer vehicles. They also downed an Apache helicopter.

On Tuesday, 43 US Soldiers were killed inside the city of Falluja. 7 US tanks were Destroyed inside Falluja and 25 tanks, personnel carriers, and vehicles were destroyed outside the city. An Apache Helicopter was also Downed. 19 Falluja Fighters were Killed also on Tuesday.

Falluja fighters captured 8 US soldiers on Tuesday and 36 US soldiers on Monday, south of the Industrial zone in Falluja. They also captured the two Hummer vehicles intact and they drove them around the city.
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24 US Soldiers Killed in Baghdad Areas on Tuesday, According to Independent News

Al-Jazeerah, November 9, 2004, 3:22 ET

The following headline news are from an internet website, called Islam Memo (http://www.islammemo.cc/), that reports from Iraqi cities. Some US TV stations mentioned that there were 16 US soldiers who were killed in various parts of Iraq on Tuesday. There are no reports yet about US and Iraqi casualties in Falluja. Al-Jazeerah does not have the resources to verify the following news from US media units.

US Forces enter 4 Falluja neighborhoods, Jolan, Mu'alimin, Jighifi, and Shurta, using the same tactics used in occupying Samarra. Air raids were followed by spreading snipers on house roofs and over mosques, then tanks advanced, which left little chance for the resistance to maneuver.

Iraqi Resistance Stop US Advance in Northern Falluja and no advance in the south because of resistance there. More fighting has occurred at Al-Mu'alimin neighborhood.

US forces penetrated northern Falluja by entering between Mu'alimin and Jighifi neighborhoods. US forces used weapons that were used first in the US attack on the Baghdad airport at the beginning of the war in 2003.

8 US soldiers and 2 Iraqi resistance fighters killed and personnel carrier and two Hummer vehicles destroyed in Suwaira, south of Baghdad.

200,000 US bombs dropped on Falluja so far. This included carpet and cluster bombs. This resulted in a big number of injuries but there are no ambulances to carry them. There are no doctors and the hospitals were either bombed or in the hands in the US forces. Dr. Muhammed Isma'il of Al-Falluja General Hospital has appealed to Iraqi doctors from all over the country to go to Falluja to treat the wounded.

Dr. Isma'il mentioned that the US forces arrested doctors and medics of the hospitals, which led to one of the nurses to do a surgery to a child to get shrapnels out of his body.

Four US soldiers killed and a hummer vehicle and a truck were destroyed at Al-Taji, north of Baghdad. About 10:00 O'clock local time, a US convoy was attacked near the Tigress River, in the Hore El-Basha area. A roadside bomb exploded then RPG rockets were launched, which resulted in the killing of four US soldiers and the truck driver who was a Jordanian or a Syrian.

Three US soldiers were killed when their convoy was attacked by RPG7 rockets on Tuesday morning at Al-Zahraniya area, south of Baghdad. Their Hummer vehicle was destroyed in the attack.

A US surveillance plane was downed at Al-Rahmaniya area of Karkh in Baghdad about 80 Monday morning. Iraqis downed it using BCK machine guns.

Four US marines Killed at Al-Ghazaliya, south of Baghdad at about 80 local morning time. A roadside bomb destroyed a US hummer military vehicle killing the four marines and injuring two others.

Five US soldiers were killed in Haifa Street in Baghdad on Tuesday at about 7:00 local time. A Bradley tank was destroyed and its crew of four were killed. A fifth US soldier was killed while exchanging fire with the Iraqi attackers, who used RPG7s and BKCs.

http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20ar...ent%20News.htm

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Negli ultimi giorni sono stati uccisi 200 marines.
Ormai è una carneficina...
Stasera il Comando USA minimizza la battaglia di Falluja: "non è risolutiva".
Hanno fallito tutti gli obiettivi:
Al Zarkahawi è scappato con una Harley Davison della CIA:
hanno avuto 500 uomini fra morti e feriti;
falluja è ancora in mano alla resistenza...
Peggio di così...

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Questo è l'elenco ufficiale degli yankee deceduti da lunedì fino a mercoledì...aggiungetene come minimo altri 15 e moltiplicate per 10....

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Negli ultimi giorni sono stati uccisi 200 marines.
Ormai è una carneficina...
Stasera il Comando USA minimizza la battaglia di Falluja: "non è risolutiva".
Hanno fallito tutti gli obiettivi:
Al Zarkahawi è scappato con una Harley Davison della CIA:
hanno avuto 500 uomini fra morti e feriti;
falluja è ancora in mano alla resistenza...
Peggio di così...

districarsi nei comunicati ufficiali e quelli non confermati e ' sempre difficile visto che sul campo non ci sono giornalisti indipendenti .

Si puo' pero' procedere ad una valutazione razionale dei comunicati ufficiali USA considerdo che , come e' normale , tendono a sopravvalutare le perdite altrui e anascondere le prorprie applicando predenzialmente la " regola del 2 " . Cioe' dividendo per 2 le perdite dichiarate inflitte ( 600 guerriglieri uccisi = 300 reali ) e moltiplicando per le perdite subite ( 20 soldati morti = 40 reali )

gia' in questi termini ( cioe' senza contare le perdite degli " ascari " irakeni ) si puo' misurare la sconfitta strategica degli americani a falluja , infatti come ha ben spiegato il generale giap nelle sue opere ed interviste un esercito moderno che attacca compatto un "esercito popolare" disperso tra la popolazione , perde quando subisce perdite superiori al rapporto 1/10 . Questo ritmo di perdite non permette la tenuta del territorio che se pur conquistato deve poi essere rapidamente lasciato di nuovo alla guerriglia .

dico questo perche' lo scopo evidente dell' attacco a falluja non era il supposta zarkawi ma la conquista definitiva di una base nemica e il totale rastrellamento dei resistenti ivi insediati .

In realta' a questa fase della battaglia e con questo ritmo di perdite e di distruzioni l' unico risultato strategico sara' la completa distruzione della citta' che comunque dovra' poi essere abbandonata alla guerriglia, guerriglia che nel frattempo sara' sciamata insieme ai profughi nelle citta' dintorno , quindi senza nessun reale risultato strategico ..

Il generale "tedesco" che comanda le truppe americane invece di studiare la " battaglia di varsavia" avrebbe dovuto studiare la " battaglia di hue " un' altra "vittoria " yankee..