NOTAM VBS, un caos

[Oli]

Mi potreste aiutare a cpire, a grandi linee, cosa dicono sti benedetti NOTAM??? SOlo il primo ha sigla M e non segue la numerazione degli altri.
Non voglio stressare con spiegazioni dettagliate, ma così, in linea di massima, che dicono?

LIPO MONTICHIARI

M3938/05 NOTAMR M3455/05
Q) LIMM/QPICH/I/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0511141137 C) PERM
E) REF PIV AREA CENTRO NORD IAC ILS/DME-P RWY 32 IS CANCELLED.
FOR UPDATED PROC SEE AIP ITALIA IAC 288/4 ILS RWY 32 AND NOTAM
B6673/05

B6763/05 NOTAMN
Q) LIMM/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0511210500 C) PERM
E) INSTR CAT I,II AND III OPS ARE ALLOWED UNDER CONDITIONS INCLUDED IN
LOW VIS PROC APPROVED BY AIRPORT CIV AVIATION AUTHORITY ORDINANCE
NR 143/2005.THE OPS MUST BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH PUBLISHED APPROACH
PROCEDURES AND RELEVANT NOTAM.
REF AIP AGA 2-11.3.2/3 AND 2-11.5


B6679/05 NOTAMN
Q) LIMM/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0511210500 C) PERM
E) ACFT SPECIAL PROC FOR LOW VIS CONDITIONS. LOW VIS PROC (LVP)
ENCLOSED TO AIRPORT CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY ORDINANCE NR.
143/2005 WILL BE APPLIED DURING CAT II, IIIA IIIB AND LVTO
(LOW VIS TKOF ) OPS. PILOT WILL BE INFORM WHEN LVP ARE IN FORCE
BY RADIOTELEPHONY. MNM USED BY THE OPERATORS MUST BE ACCEPTED
BY APPROPRIATE CIVAVIATION AUTHORITY AND CAN'T BE LESS THAN RVR
100M. TWY A IS PROVIDED WITH 6 IHP (INTERMEDIATE HOLDING POSITION)
FM A6 TO A1 FROM TWY AB TO TWY AA.
IHP REPORTING IS MANDATORY IN VIS 2 AND VIS 3 CONDITIONS
FOR DEP: FOLLOW-ME PRECEDES ACFT FM PARKING STAND TO A3
IHP THROUGH TWY E OR D, THEN ACFT WILL REPORT A2, A1, HOLDING
POINT 32 WITH A MNM SEPARATION OF 1 EMPTY SECTION BTN
SUBSEQUENT TFC.
FOR ARR: ACFT VACATE RWY 32 AT TWY AB THEN IT WILL REPORT AT IHP
A6, A5, A4 WITH A MNM SEPARATION OF 1 EMPTY SECTION BTN
SUBSEQUENT TFC.
FM A4 FOLLOW-ME WILL GUIDE ACFT TO PARKING STAND.
WITH RVR LESS THAN 150M ONLY 1 MOV AT TIME IS ALLOWED.
DURING LOW VIS PROC PAPI SYSTEM WILL BE SWITCHED OFF.
REF AIP AGA 2-11.3.2, 2-11.3.3 AND 2-11.5

B6677/05 NOTAMN
Q) LIMM/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0511210500 C) PERM
E) LVTO (LOW VISIBILITY TKOF) OPS ARE ALLOWED UNDER CONDITIONS
INCL IN LOW VISIBILITY PROC APPROVED BY AIRPORT CIV AVIATION
AUTHORITY ORDINANCE NR 143-2005.
REF AIP AGA 2-11.3.3 AND 2-11.5

[Oli]

Nessuno mi aiuta, almeno con quello più fresco?

[Tiennetti]

Ero sicuro di averti risposto ieri sera

Cos'è che non capisci?

[webio]

Vabbè, il primo notam è militare e riguarda le PIV (Pubblicazioni Informazioni Volo, una specie di AIP militare) e dice che l'ILS/DME-P RWY 32 è cancellato e di fare riferimento alla procedura in AIP Italia.


Secondo notam: le operazioni in CAT I, II e III sono consentite in accordo alle procedure di bassa visibilità emesse dall'ENAC.



Terzo notam: si parla sempre di procedure in bassa visibilità, qua basta tradurre dall'inglese. Praticamente c'è scritto cosa bisogna fare durante certi valori di visibilità e/o di condizioni di visibilità (1, 2 e 3)..
Gli IHP (Intermediate Holding Position) servono per regolare la movimentazione degli a/m in condizioni di visibilità 2 e 3, visto che in tali condizioni il controllore non riesce a vedere gli aeromobili.



Quarto notam: come il secondo, solo che si parla di decolli in bassa visibilità.

Ciao

[Oli]

Mi pareva di aver capito da A) LIPO B) 0511210500 C) PERM
che l'ILS IIIB parte dal 21 novembre. Ho capito giusto o no?

La cosa che mi preoccupava era REF PIV AREA CENTRO NORD IAC ILS/DME-P RWY 32 IS CANCELLED, cioè pensavo che tutto fosse destinato ad essere rimandato a data da destinarsi.

[webio]

E' solo una sostituzione di cartina, invece che consultare quella della PIV, bisogna guardare quella dell'AIP Italia, più aggiornata

[Amsterdammer]

E se io vi dicessi che non ho capito nulla?? chi mi fa un corso di lettura??

Grazie... ho gia' il bloccfo per gli appunti in mano!!

[Oli]

In Origine Postato da Amsterdammer
E se io vi dicessi che non ho capito nulla?? chi mi fa un corso di lettura??

Grazie... ho gia' il bloccfo per gli appunti in mano!!

Provo io, per quello che capisco

M3938/05 NOTAMR M3455/05 ok, il numero
Q) LIMM/QPICH/I/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0511141137 C) PERM vbs, a partire dalle 1137 del 14/11/05 fino a "senza limite"
E) REF PIV AREA CENTRO NORD IAC ILS/DME-P RWY 32 IS CANCELLED. questo riferimento è cancellato
FOR UPDATED PROC SEE AIP ITALIA IAC 288/4 ILS RWY 32 AND NOTAM
B6673/05 per altri riferimenti guardare aip italia etc.

B6763/05 NOTAMN
Q) LIMM/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0511210500 C) PERM vbs, a partire dalle 5 (le 6 da noi) del 21/11/05 fino a "senza limite"
E) INSTR CAT I,II AND III OPS ARE ALLOWED UNDER CONDITIONS INCLUDED IN LOW VIS PROC APPROVED BY AIRPORT CIV AVIATION AUTHORITY ORDINANCE NR 143/2005.THE OPS MUST BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH PUBLISHED APPROACH PROCEDURES AND RELEVANT NOTAM. In sostanza da quell'ora VBS funzionerà in cat. IIIB secondo le normali normative.
REF AIP AGA 2-11.3.2/3 AND 2-11.5


B6679/05 NOTAMN
Q) LIMM/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0511210500 C) PERM
E) ACFT SPECIAL PROC FOR LOW VIS CONDITIONS. LOW VIS PROC (LVP)
ENCLOSED TO AIRPORT CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY ORDINANCE NR.
143/2005 WILL BE APPLIED DURING CAT II, IIIA IIIB AND LVTO
(LOW VIS TKOF ) OPS. PILOT WILL BE INFORM WHEN LVP ARE IN FORCE
BY RADIOTELEPHONY. MNM USED BY THE OPERATORS MUST BE ACCEPTED
BY APPROPRIATE CIVAVIATION AUTHORITY AND CAN'T BE LESS THAN RVR
100M. TWY A IS PROVIDED WITH 6 IHP (INTERMEDIATE HOLDING POSITION)
FM A6 TO A1 FROM TWY AB TO TWY AA.
IHP REPORTING IS MANDATORY IN VIS 2 AND VIS 3 CONDITIONS
FOR DEP: FOLLOW-ME PRECEDES ACFT FM PARKING STAND TO A3
IHP THROUGH TWY E OR D, THEN ACFT WILL REPORT A2, A1, HOLDING
POINT 32 WITH A MNM SEPARATION OF 1 EMPTY SECTION BTN
SUBSEQUENT TFC.
FOR ARR: ACFT VACATE RWY 32 AT TWY AB THEN IT WILL REPORT AT IHP
A6, A5, A4 WITH A MNM SEPARATION OF 1 EMPTY SECTION BTN
SUBSEQUENT TFC.
FM A4 FOLLOW-ME WILL GUIDE ACFT TO PARKING STAND.
WITH RVR LESS THAN 150M ONLY 1 MOV AT TIME IS ALLOWED.
DURING LOW VIS PROC PAPI SYSTEM WILL BE SWITCHED OFF.
REF AIP AGA 2-11.3.2, 2-11.3.3 AND 2-11.5

Qui basta tradurre

B6677/05 NOTAMN
Q) LIMM/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0511210500 C) PERM
E) LVTO (LOW VISIBILITY TKOF) OPS ARE ALLOWED UNDER CONDITIONS
INCL IN LOW VISIBILITY PROC APPROVED BY AIRPORT CIV AVIATION
AUTHORITY ORDINANCE NR 143-2005.
REF AIP AGA 2-11.3.3 AND 2-11.5

Ho detto bene?

[Oli]

Ne hanno aggiunto uno:

B6829/05 NOTAMR B6805/05
Q) LIMM/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0511171951 C) 0512010459EST
E) TKOF NOT PERMITTED WITH RVR VISIBILITY BELOW 400M.
REF AIP AGA 2-11.3.3 ITEM 20 POINT 4

Da quanto capisco, dal 17/11 al 01/12 non saranno permessi decolli con visibilità inferiore ai 400 m.
Invariato il resto, cioè cat IIIB dal 21/11.

Giusto?

[Oli]

Sono di nuovo cambiati, ora tutto è spostato all'1/12....

LIPO MONTICHIARI [Back to Top] M3938/05 NOTAMR M3455/05
Q) LIMM/QPICH/I/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0511141137 C) PERM
E) REF PIV AREA CENTRO NORD IAC ILS/DME-P RWY 32 IS CANCELLED.
FOR UPDATED PROC SEE AIP ITALIA IAC 288/4 ILS RWY 32 AND NOTAM B6673/05

B6876/05 NOTAMN
Q) LIMM/QMRXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0511210800 C) 0511211600
E) LDG, TKOF AND TAX WITH CTN DUE TO GRASS CUTTING IN RWY AND TWY STRIP, PRESENCE MEN AND EQPT IN RDO CTC WITH TWR. REF AIP AGA 2-11.5

B6869/05 NOTAMN
Q) LIMM/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0512010500 C) PERM
E) ACFT SPECIAL PROC FOR LOW VIS CONDITIONS. LOW VIS PROC (LVP) ENCLOSED TO AIRPORT CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY ORDINANCE NR 143/2005 WILL BE APPLIED DURING CAT II, IIIA IIIB AND LVTO (LOW VIS TKOF) OPS. PILOT WILL BE INFORM WHEN LVP ARE IN FORCE BY RADIOTELEPHONY. MNM USED BY THE OPERATORS MUST BE ACCEPTED BY APPRPRIATE CIV AVIATION AUTHORITY AND CAN'T BE LESS THAN RVR 100M. TWY A IS PROVIDED WITH 6 IHP (INTERMEDIATE HOLDING POSITION) FM A6 TO A1 FM TWY AB TO TWY AA. IHP REPORTING IS MANDATORY IN VIS 2 AND VIS 3 CONDITION FOR DEP: FOLLOW-ME PRECEDES ACFT FM PARKING STAND TO A3 IHP THROUGH TWY E OR D, THEN ACFT WILL REPORT A2, A1, HOLDING POIT 32 WITH A MNM SEPARATION OF 1 EMPTY SECTION BTN SUBSEQUENT TFC.
FOR ARR: ACFT VACATE RWY32 AT TWY AB THEN IT WILL REPORT AT IHP A6, A5, A4 WITH A MNM SEPARATION OF 1 EMPTY SECTION BTN SUBSEQUENT TFC. FM A4 FOLLOW-ME WILL GUIDE ACFT TO PARKING STAND. WITH RVR LESS THAN 150M ONLY 1 MOV AT TIME IS ALLOWED.
DURING LOW VIS PROC PAPI SYSTEM WILL BE SWITCHED OFF.
REF AIP AGA 2-11.3.2, 2-11.3.3 AND 2-11.5

B6868/05 NOTAMN
Q) LIMM/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0512010500 C) PERM
E) INSTR CAT I, II AND III OPS ARE ALLOWED UNDER CONDITIONS INCLUDED IN LOW VIS PROC APPROVED BY AIRPORT CIV AVIATION AUTHORITY ORDINANCE NR 143/2005. THE OPS MUST BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH PUBLISHED APPROACH PROCEDURES AND RELEVANT NOTAM.
REF AIP AGA 2-11.3.2/3 AND 2-11.5

B6867/05 NOTAMN
Q) LIMM/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0512010500 C) PERM
E) LVTO (LOW VISIBILITY TKOF) OPS ARE ALLOWED UNDER CONDITIONS INCLUDED IN LOW VISIBILITY PROC APPROVED BY AIRPORT CIV AVIATION AUTHORITY ORDINANCE NR 143-2005.
REF AIP AGA 2-11.3.3 AND 2-11.5

B6829/05 NOTAMR B6805/05
Q) LIMM/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4525N01019E001
A) LIPO B) 0511171951 C) 0512010459EST
E) TKOF NOT PERMITTED WITH RVR VISIBILITY BELOW 400M.
REF AIP AGA 2-11.3.3 ITEM 20 POINT 4