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    Non ci sono mai stato in Usa, mi piacerebbe venire da voi...ma non ho simpatia per le politiche americane...

    Secondo me, però, invece che più americhe si dovrebbe parlare di più americani.
    A differenza di molte persone non sono Antiamericano a priori, ma solo contro questo governo Bush, anzi a me gli Americani stanno simpatici...

    Io comunque tengo per il sud.

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    No,esistono moltissime americhe differenti,determinate sia dal clima che dalla gente che dal territorio in sè e questo è uno se non il più grande sogno americano per me: perchè genti con storie,condizioni di vita completamente in apparenza agli antipodi (provate a confrontare che so Miami con Green Bay, o NYC con il paesino da 787 abitanti dove ha la residenza Bush, New Orleans con Pittsburgh,etc....)si sentono parte integrante di UNA Nazione Indivisibile. questo è straordinario e unico al mondo,ammettiamolo.....

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    eheheh siete due bei personaggi non c'è niente da dire..
    Grazie, giovanotto!

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    da quella Maoista di Hillary........


    dovresti smettere di bere, lo sai?

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    dovresti smettere di bere, lo sai?
    Madame Hillary: The Dark Road to the White House (Hardcover)
    by R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr. (Author), Mark W. Davis (Author)

    One of the most useful aspects of this important and entertaining book is the light it sheds on how the Clintons (both of them) habitually respond to any criticism: (1) Vigorously deny it; (2) Launch ad hominem attacks on the critic; (3) Act personally victimized by the criticism ("Why do they hate me?"); and (4) Say the critic is obsessing over "old news." Some of the reviews on this page prove their supporters have learned the script well.
    The Clintons and their scandals are hardly old news, given that she is a powerful US Senator and presumptive candidate for the presidency. Bob Tyrrell has had the Clintons' number from the beginning. And in this book, he picks up the late Barbara Olsen's torch as the writer with perhaps the clearest understanding of Hillary Clinton, her deeply radical, if deeply camouflaged, designs for our country, her lust for power, and how she intends to go about winning it.

    The problem is that the Clintons arouse such strong feelings, both pro and con, that it can be difficult to separate the facts from the *Kultursmog* (such a great word -- I've admired it for years). Tyrrell and coauthor Mark Davis have done the heavy lifting for us, giving us chapter-and-verse not only on the Clintons' Arkansas and White House years, but also Madame Hillary's journey "from Methodism to Maoism" (p. 120) and into the ranks of Coat and Tie Radicals. Like Olsen, Tyrrell sees the heavy hand of Saul Alinsky not only in her early radical years, but also in her approach to politics and power even today. This is enlightening and disturbing reading.

    I've always suspected that one of the things the Left hates most about Bob Tyrrell is not just that he skewers them so thoroughly, but that he has such fun doing it (Ann Coulter commits this sin too). This book "was a pleasure to write," he notes on page 209, and I have no doubt he means it. It was a pleasure to read, too. Tyrrell has always had a way with language that recalls some of the great polemicists, Mencken being the most obvious comparison. But the key to Tyrrell is that he backs up his entertaining and sometimes idiosyncratic language not only with solid research -- kudos to coauthor Davis here -- but also with a rational train of argument and conclusions that flow logically from the facts presented (far be it from me to suggest Ann Coulter sometimes parts company with him here, to say nothing of scurrilous windbags like Michael Moore, but I can see how you might reach that conclusion).

    Hillary Clinton is going to remain a political force in this country for a long time to come. So long as she does, this book will be an important reminder not only of the fraudulence of her so-called "accomplishments" (which are what ... exactly?), but also of her true motivations, goals, and a track record that -- Point Four above notwithstanding -- should be much on the mind of the American voter. That makes "Madame Hillary" a book to keep handy for the next decade or so, at least.

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    Hillary's Long March., May 29, 2004
    Reviewer: Bernard Chapin "Ora Et Labora!" (CHICAGO! USA) - See all my reviews

    Most conservatives are completely baffled by the Hillarymania of today's liberals. A recent poll illustrates that she remains a highly polarizing figure among the American electorate. Should she run in 2008, the right will have no trouble turning out its base as 48% of the population hold an unfavorable view of her. Her road to victory will be formidable, but the Clintons have encountered numerous challenges over the years and emerged victorious time after time. It is undoubtedly for this reason that R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. (with Mark Davis) decided to write Madame Hillary: The Dark Road to the White House.
    Their account is a brief political history of the woman who could be queen. It is also an attempt to warn us of what may happen should she seize power. This biography gazes into the future and is terrified by what may be.
    The "Madame" in the title refers to China's Madame Mao who was known as "the white boned demon." Tyrrell does not accuse Hillary Clinton of being a demon but does believe that the respectable person presented to us by her PR department does not in fact exist. Senator Clinton is a "Coat and Tie Radical" who has never forgotten or disowned the revolutionary ideas of the 1960's. Society exists for her and her kind to reconfigure.
    As the allusion to Madame Mao may have informed you, this book is not an objective account of Hillary's life. It is written from the perspective of a warrior in the Clinton Wars and there is nothing equivocal in its narration.
    As Editor in Chief of The American Spectator, R. Emmett Tyrrell's experiences with the Clintons were legion and none of them produced pleasure. He recounts a story when he ran across Bill in the Jockey Club. He decided to ask him a question. The former President responded with annoyance and a very pathetic temper tantrum. Yet Tyrrell notes that it was Hillary's cold stare, as opposed to Mr. Clinton's babyish whines, that truly unnerved him.
    Madame Hillary will not appeal to anyone on the left or moderates in general as there is little diplomatic or uncertain about its tone. Tyrrell has seen all he needs to see from the former first lady and, while he admits that she has made great strides in her political skills, he fears for all of our futures should she become president.
    "Madame Hillary would, in her wildest dreams, undoubtedly relish a presidency that was an unending left-wing rampage, a national Cambodian re-education camp for anyone caught wearing an Adam Smith necktie or scarf. Such `extremists are the enemy, after all, composing the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy that must be scotched if Clintonian America is to be saved. She would install an all-woman Cabinet to thumb her nose at the patriarchy...With Hillary now making all the appointments, why not have a Cabinet full of short-haired harridans and crypto-Marxists from assorted left-wing hothouses?"
    She is one of the most important people on our planet and Tyrrell believes this outcome is not due to chance. He depicts her as an individual consumed by ambition and a lust for power. Her personality is colored by an overwhelming need to control others. She is a "self-promoting dynamo" and a "self-regarding existentialist." What steps she takes (and over whom) are irrelevant. The ends always justify the means. The author asks Dick Morris about her private life and he relays that she doesn't have one. Hillary is an example of a life whose essence is to make the most of the political opportunities that are encountered.
    Madame Hillary is a well-written work and a general good use of one's time, yet it is by no means a comprehensive history of the junior Senator from New York. If that's what the reader is looking for I'd recommend Barbara Olson's Hell to Pay instead. Although, as far as producing entertainment and arguments for the conservative faithful, there are few better or more timely offerings available than this strident book by Emmett Tyrrell.

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    senza parlare delle vicenda maoismo che pure avevo gia' sentito.. oggi pare hce Rupert Murdoch ritiri il appoggio formale a Hillary per Obama.. secondo lui altri 8 anni di Clinton sono troppi..

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    Madame Hillary: The Dark Road to the White House (Hardcover)
    by R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr. (Author), Mark W. Davis (Author)
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    Hillary per Obama.. secondo lui altri 8 anni di Clinton sono troppi..
    In effetti altri 4 anni della famiglia Clinton dopo 16 della famiglia Bush non sono esattamente il "nuovo che avanza"

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    In effetti altri 4 anni della famiglia Clinton dopo 16 della famiglia Bush non sono esattamente il "nuovo che avanza"
    D'accordo, ma Obama e` un personaggio di carta......

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    D'accordo, ma Obama e un personaggio di carta......
    Vero, ma credo che la sua forza stia appunto nel presentarsi come un personaggio mediatico.
    Se andiamo nel pratico diventa un candidato come tutti gli altri, perdendo l'aura da rock star.

 

 
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