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    Predefinito Bible Quotes On the Mayflower



    The Judaeo-Christian Holy Scriptures played a decisive and crucial role in the History of United States of America.
    Imagine you are on the Mayflower and just left Europe: in reminding your past and dreaming about your future in America, which Scriptures and Promises of God would attract your attention during the trip and the first year in America until Thanksgiving?
    Le Sacre Scritture Giudeocristiane hanno avuto un ruolo cruciale e determinante nella Storia degli Stati Uniti d'America.
    Immagina di esserti appena imbarcato sulla Mayflower: ricordando il passato e sognando il futuro, quali Scritture e Promesse di Dio attirerebbero la tua attenzione durante il viaggio ed il primo anno di vita in America fino al giorno del Ringraziamento?

    Questo primo post e' scritto in Italiano ed Inglese per dare un idea...
    Ecco dei siti dove trovare utili informazioni.
    http://www.mayflowerfamilies.com/
    http://www.mayflowerfamilies.com/May..._ii_photos.htm
    http://www.mayflowersteps.co.uk/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayflower




    I'll start with Isaiah 45 while just leaving Plymouth (England) to Plymouth (Massachussets). God is Eternal and Sovereign in Human History. He called and anointed Cyrus before he was born for His purposes. He knows and controls the destiny of all nations and people. He knows what I left and why and He knows where I am going and what will happen. He will be in control all the way through and He will protect the nation where I am going to live. He is YHWH from and for ever and ever and protects the life, future and offspring of those who love Him. He will provide e protect us.
    Inizio con Isaia 45, lasciando Plymouth (England). Dio e' Eterno e Sovrano sulla Storia Umana. Egli ha chiamato ed unto Ciro prima che nascesse per compiere i suoi disegni. Egli conosce cosa lascio e perche', e conosce pure dove vado e cosa accadra'. Dio sara' continuamente in controllo... Dio e' YHWH in eterno e proteggera' la vita, il futuro e la discendenza di coloro che lo amano.

    The first part of the chapter deals with the call of Cyrus long before he is even born!
    Cyrus is here called God’s anointed, because he was designed and qualified by God, and as such he becomes a type of the Messiah. God will hold his right hand, to strengthen and sustain him and to direct his motions and intentions.
    The prophet Isaiah foretold that a conqueror named Cyrus would destroy Babylon and subdue Egypt along with most of the rest of the known world. This same man, said Isaiah, would decide to let the Jewish exiles in his territory go free without any payment of ransom (Isaiah 44:28; 45:1; and 45:13). Isaiah made this prophecy 150 years before Cyrus was born, 180 years before Cyrus performed any of these feats (and he did, eventually, perform them all), and 80 years before the Jews were taken into exile.

    Babylon was 196 miles square, enclosed not only by a moat, but also by a double wall 330 feet high, each part 90 feet thick. It was said to be indestructible, yet two Bible prophets declared its doom. These prophets claimed that the ruins would be avoided by travellers, that the city would never again be inhabited, and that its stones would not even be moved to be reused for building (Isaiah 13:17-22 and Jeremiah 51:26, 43).
    If you like to see in what sort of context the prophecy about Cyrus gets fulfilled, please read the 5th chapter of Daniel, where the arrogance and the filthy abomination of Belshazzar, in the act of offending God and His Temple, while he was in the suitable company of his friend and concubines, finds a sharp and quick response from God. Wine, sex and hysteria of power and greatness were in tune with the praise and worshipping of fake gods, when the great Belshazzar had his countenance changed, his loins loosed and knees smote one against the other. What God told him that night was exactly was a fulfilment of the promise to Cyrus 150 years before he was born.
    Josephus, the Jewish historian reported that the Jews in Babylon showed Cyrus the prophecies in the Bible with his name written in them and what God would have done by and for him. Cyrus as gratitude and acknowledgment towards God fulfilled also the rest of the prophecy concerning the return of Israel to land of the Fathers. This is reported in “Antiquities 11.1.2”
    Then the scholars “decided” by their autarchic academic “emission” that Isaiah couldn’t have been written before Cyrus, and therefore there should be 3 o 4 different Isaiah. Naturally all fake alias academic emission! Jesus said it well: “… men loved darkness rather then light, because their deeds were evil.” John 3: 19
    “Evil” here is the Hebrew Ra’ in the ethical sense, while the “evil” in Isaiah 45:7 relates to the promise of God to appoint Cyrus for his plans and eventually destroy Babylon.
    The “Cyrus Cylinder” contains an amazing confirmation of the biblical narrative: “All of their people I gathered together and restored to their dwelling-places…” (M.Prince, “The Monuments and the Old Testament”)

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    "Favourite Loving Bible Quotes" in http://au.messages.yahoo.com/news/oddlyenough/56178/ - invito a partecipare come segue! Disciplina ed ospitalita' mi sembrano gli ingredienti giusti per la buona riuscita di questo thread!

    "Bible Quotes On the Mayflower"
    http://www.politicaonline.net/forum/...d.php?t=363152
    (delete spaces)

    Would you like to give a look? Netiquette will be strict and consistent with the nature and the topic of the thread. Christians at home and all invited as long sincere and constructive cooperation.

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    beh,almeno il controllo da parte dei moderatori penso che qui lo potrai avere,ma il rischio d'invasione di pulci resta....

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    Ho informato anche Pansi1951 iscrittasi in POL, ma da noi e' notte fonda... Vedremo che succede domani! Grazie per la supervisione ed i moderatori. Grazie anche a Richard per la sua disponibilita'.

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    ciao david, leggo sempre volentieri i tuoi interventi.

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    Citazione Originariamente Scritto da david777 Visualizza Messaggio
    Ho informato anche Pansi1951 iscrittasi in POL, ma da noi e' notte fonda... Vedremo che succede domani! Grazie per la supervisione ed i moderatori. Grazie anche a Richard per la sua disponibilita'.
    io ringrazio Te per arricchire il nostro forum...se ci fosse qualche problema mandami un messaggio privato

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    Hi david777....I think this is the thread you were telling me about. I will certainly try to recall some bible quotes that would be relevant to the situation. The amazing thing about the Word of God is that all of lifes predicaments are answered in the bible.
    Will be back.

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    Ok....this is a good message to remember when heading for an unknown land.
    Psalm 27:1

    1 The LORD is my light and my salvation—
    whom shall I fear?
    The LORD is the stronghold of my life—
    of whom shall I be afraid?

    or even Psalm 23

    The Lord is my shepherd.

    And what a great shepherd He is. Who else would you want to lead you on your lifes journey?

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    He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8

    I consider the Heavens, the moon and the stars, which Thou hast ordained: What is man, that Thou art mindful of him and the son of man that Thou visited him? O Lord Our God how excellent is thy name in all the earth! (Ps.8)
    http://www.khouse.org/6640_media_ser...ow_day=tuesday

    Is the New World willing to be just, merciful and humble, or when God willing we'll land another story of abuse, evil and persecution will start? Human nature will be the same but the battle between good and evil might have a better outcome if the Word of God will be understood and received. A covenant with God will give America strength and prosperity, and when in time of crisis the Word of God will be recovered with repentance, the discipline of God will be for good and not for evil - as in Isaiah 45 we just quoted:
    Isa 45:7
    I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].
    http://www.khouse.org/6640_media_ser...how_day=monday



    Pslam 9: I will praise Thee, O Lord, with my whole heart; I will show forth all Thy marvellous works. I will be glad and rejoice in Thee: I will sing praise to thy name, O Thou most High.

    This will be the Way of Justice and Integrity for America to prosper and eventually recover strength and security in time of trouble in order to defeat the enemy.


    [To the chief Musician upon Gittith, A Psalm of David.] O LORD our Lord, how excellent [is] thy name in all the earth! who hast set thy glory above the heavens.
    Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger.
    When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
    What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
    For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
    Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all [things] under his feet:
    All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;
    The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, [and whatsoever] passeth through the paths of the seas.
    O LORD our Lord, how excellent [is] thy name in all the earth!


    What is man, that thou art mindful of him? Crowned him with glory and honour...
    The Lord a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble... (Psalm 9:6) Yes! Time was tough lately, but there is a way out and hope... God allowed the West to reach America... It is a dark night and I don't realise why the stars are moving in the sky in the shape of a horizontal eight and fall asleep on the boat deck while reading in a lifeboat. My eyes are closing... why are the stars moving?

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    Predefinito Got the Ticket?

    The 103 Mayflower Passengers
    http://www.mayflowerhistory.com/History/pilgrim2.php



    When the Mayflower departed Plymouth, England, she was carrying 102 passengers, including three pregnant women. During the voyage, one baby was born, Oceanus Hopkins, making a total of 103 passengers. Three days before land was sighted, one passenger, William Button, died, so that the Mayflower arrived with 102 passengers. Below is a complete list of all the Mayflower passengers, along with a brief summary of their ages, occupations, and English origins. More information about each individual passenger can be found in the Passengers section of this website.




    Portraits of the Pilgrims

    Girls and women on the Mayflower
    http://www.mayflowerhistory.com/History/girls.php
    http://www.mayflowerhistory.com/History/women.php

 

 
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