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    Predefinito In UK si mantengono gli harem coi sussidi

    In UK si mantengono gli harem degli islamici, coi sussidi...



    Husbands with multiple wives to get extra benefits after Government gives the green light
    By JAMES SLACK

    Last updated at 014am on 4th February 2008



    Husbands living in a "harem" with multiple wives have been cleared to claim state benefits for all their different partners.

    A Muslim man with four spouses - which is permitted under Islamic law - could receive £10,000 a year in income support alone.

    He could also be entitled to more generous housing and council tax benefit, to reflect the fact his household needs a bigger property.





    Extra benefits: Muslim men with multiple wives can claim more for income support

    Ministers have decided that, even though bigamy is a crime in Britain, polygamous marriages can be recognised formally by the state - provided they took place overseas, in countries where they are legal.

    The outcome will chiefly benefit Muslim men with more than one wife.

    Ministers estimate that up to a thousand polygamous partnerships exist in Britain, although they admit there is no exact record.

    Potentially, the benefits bill for income support could reach £10m.

    New guidelines on income support from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) state: "Where there is a valid polygamous marriage the claimant and one spouse will be paid the couple rate (£92.80).

    "The amount payable for each additional spouse is presently £33.65."

    Income support for all of the wives may be paid directly into the husband's bank account, if the family so choose.

    Chris Grayling, the shadow work and pensions secretary, said that the decision was "completely unjustifiable".

    He added: "You are not allowed to have multiple marriages in the UK, so to have a situation where the benefits system is treating people in different ways is totally unacceptable and will serve to undermine confidence in the system.

    "This sets a precedent that will lead to more demands for the culture of other countries to be reflected in UK law and the benefits system."

    Mr Grayling also accused the Government of trying to keep the ruling quiet because the topic is so controversial.

    Corin Taylor, research director for the Taxpayers' Alliance, said: "British taxpayers are paying a record amount of tax so the Government has a duty to make sure that every penny is spent properly.

    "Polygamy is not something which British law allows and therefore British taxpayers should not have to pay for extra benefits for second or third wives.

    "If other countries sanction polygamy that is fine but the British taxpayer should not have to fund it."

    Ministers launched a review of the benefit rules for polygamous marriages in November 2006, after it emerged that some families had benefited financially.

    The review concluded in December last year with agreement that the extra benefits should continue to be paid. But the decision was not publicly announced.

    Four departments - the Treasury, the DWP, HM Revenue and Customs, and the Home Office - were involved in the review, which concluded that recognising multiple marriages conducted overseas was 'the best possible' option. In Britain, bigamy is punishable by up to seven years in prison.

    Islamic law permits men to have up to four wives at any one time - known as a harem - provided the husband spends equal amounts of time and money on each of them.

    The DWP believes the number of people in polygamous marriages entering Britain has fallen since the 1988 Immigration Act, which makes it harder to bring more than one wife to the UK.

    But, while a married man cannot obtain a spouse visa to bring a second wife into Britain, some multiple partners may be able to enter the country via other legal routes such as tourist visas, student visas or work permits.

    Officials have also identified a potential loophole by which a man can divorce his wife under British law while continuing to live with her as his spouse under Islamic law, and obtain a spouse visa for a foreign woman who he can legally marry.

    Immigration rules say entry clearance may not be withheld from a second wife where the husband has divorced his previous wife, and the divorce is thought to be one of convenience.

    This is so, even if the husband is still living with the previous wife and to issue the entry clearance would lead to the formation of a polygamous household.

    Muslim couples are only married in the eyes of the British state if they undergo a register office wedding as well as a Nikah, or religious ceremony.

    Muslim groups say it is quite common for men here to undergo more than one Nikah with different wives. This does not count as bigamy since only the first marriage is legally recognised.

    A DWP spokesman said: 'There are fewer than 1,000 polygamous marriages in the UK and only a small percentage of these are claiming social security benefit.

    "We recently reviewed the rules regarding benefit payments to customers in a polygamous marriage, which conclude that the rules in place since 1987 provide the necessary safeguards to ensure there is no financial advantage for claimants in a valid polygamous marriage."


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    sempre più sovietici e barbari gli inglesi

    che schifo, l'incentivo alla poligamia con soldo pubblico!
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    Extra benefits: Muslim men with multiple wives can claim more for income support
    Oddio, pure a me piacerebbe allineare tutti culetti...
    Ma ci pensate quando hai tre mogli over cinquanta che pretendono che tutte le notti assolvi i doveri coniugali, sennò vanno dall'Imam e ti fanno frustare?
    Aoh, me lo spiegarono alcune femministe di sinistra (un po attempate...): il marito islamico è "obbligato" ad amare la moglie.
    E il chador snellisce terribilmente!

    Ma se uno 'gna fa?

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    vergogna, vergogna, vergogna...

    sempre più sovietici e barbari gli inglesi

    che schifo, l'incentivo alla poligamia con soldo pubblico!
    Ti figuri Padoa Schioppa che si preoccupa del debito pubblico?
    Non più di sei mogli a testa!

    Se le paga lo stato qui troveresti pure chi se ne prende cinquanta.

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    Ti figuri Padoa Schioppa che si preoccupa del debito pubblico?
    Non più di sei mogli a testa!

    Se le paga lo stato qui troveresti pure chi se ne prende cinquanta.
    Troveresti i vari Grillini a chiedere i DICO poligami...

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    Bien plus que le bruit des bottes, je crains le silence des pantoufles. [Thierry Van Humbeeck]

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    Ti figuri Padoa Schioppa che si preoccupa del debito pubblico?
    Non più di sei mogli a testa!

    Se le paga lo stato qui troveresti pure chi se ne prende cinquanta.
    Striderebbe con la lotta ai "bamboccioni"

 

 
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