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[FLenzi]

Quindi la meloni era già considerata la regina d'Europa da un semestre, ancora meglio

Carissimo @Dr. Gori, l'importante è crederci, perchè nell'articolo in cui la riportano come 3° nel titolo poi scrivo cose non proprio belle!!! Ma tanto quelli come lei è già tanto se leggono il titolo.

[Dr. Gori]

Se ha la capacità di leggere quest'altro articolone del Times sulla faccenda noterà quanto la Meloni sia effettivamente tenuta in grande considerazione, a dispetto degli haters piddini



HAS GIORGIA MELONI MADE HERSELF THE NEW QUEEN OF EUROPE?

There was a time when new leaders in Europe began life in office by
visiting the three great centres of power: Brussels, Berlin and Paris.
Yet when Yvette Cooper’s plane touched down on Friday evening on a
mission to plug the holes in Britain’s borders, it did so in Rome.

The home secretary was following a path trodden by Sir Keir Starmer,
who visited Italy in September. Cooper spent Saturday with her Italian
counterpart, Matteo Piandetosi, before they jointly addressed the
Atreju festival, an event organised by the Italian prime minister
Giorgia Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party, on how they can tackle
migration together. Cooper’s presence will cement the growing view
in diplomatic circles that Meloni has become one of the key figures in
European politics and an influential voice on the right throughout the
West.

This weekend, Cooper discussed plans with Meloni’s team to work with
Italy to combat illicit financing for the criminal gangs behind
migrant trafficking. Italy has vast expertise from decades of
countering the mafia, while London, thanks to the City, has the best
expertise in Europe on dark finance and money laundering.

• LABOUR PLANS MELONI-STYLE MIGRANT DEALS

Meloni’s emergence as a power player has coincided with the collapse
of Olaf Scholz’s centre-left coalition in Germany and domestic
strife for Emmanuel Macron, the French president, who was forced to
appoint a new prime minister last week after Michel Barnier was forced
out.

ADVERTISEMENT

When Meloni first came to power, in October 2022, she was seen as
riding the populist wave sweeping the West and some wondered how long
she would last in a country notorious for the fragility of its
governments. Yet two years on, Meloni is one of the most secure
leaders in the European Union — and one of the most influential.
With Angela Merkel gone, some in the corridors of power see Meloni
succeeding the former German chancellor as the new queen of European
politics.

Roberto D’Alimonte, a politics professor at Luiss University in
Rome, said: “She is the only prime minister of a major EU country
who can expect to be there in three years — it’s a kind of
stability Italy is not known for.” A senior official in the last
Tory government put it more bluntly: “When she hosted the G7 meeting
[in June], everyone else was a dead man walking.”

Rishi Sunak was out of a job three weeks after cosying up to Meloni at
the G7 summit in Puglia in June

CHRISTOPHER FURLONG/AP

Meloni’s government has also surprised many of its allies with the
way she has combined a tough and effective crackdown on immigration
without embracing the hardline approach associated with Italy’s
neo-fascists (12 of whom were arrested last week for trying to
assassinate her). Meloni has avoided the race-baiting of her coalition
ally Matteo Salvini.

She has also grown her power by quietly forming an effective alliance
with Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Commission,
to tackle immigration — an issue that brought Brussels out in hives
when David Cameron sought curbs on free movement before the EU
referendum in 2016.

D’Alimonte said: “Even Scandinavian social democratic parties are
waking up to the issue. She is on the right side of the right issue at
the right time.” Francesco Galietti, an analyst at the Policy Sonar
consultancy in Rome, added: “Italy has been ahead of the curve, a
petri dish for European politics.”

ADVERTISEMENT

Which explains why Cooper was in Rome this weekend. In addition to her
talks about illicit gang finance, the Home Office is launching new
“upstream communications campaigns” aimed at exposing the lies
told by criminal smuggling gangs. This activity will include warnings
to prospective migrants about the exploitative practices of employers
and the dire and inhumane living conditions of some of those found to
be working illegally, based on real testimonies.

That is an echo of the deal Meloni and von der Leyen struck with
Tunisia to halt sailings across the Mediterranean (which dwarf in
scale and danger those across the Channel). That has helped cut
arrivals in Italy to about 64,000 landings this year, less than half
the 153,000 registered by this time last year. The deal focuses not
just on enforcement: Meloni has also persuaded the rest of the EU to
do more burden-sharing over refugees. And she has also focused on
upstream working with countries in North Africa to persuade people not
to leave. Her phrase is that people should have “the right not to
migrate” rather than feel compelled to do so.

Cooper stressed that Italy had led the way in urging greater
co-operation across Europe to tackle migration and that talks with the
so-called Calais group of countries (the UK, France, Germany,
Netherlands and Belgium) were showing progress. “There’s been a
real gear shift,” Cooper said, “and Italy has been a leading voice
in that. What Meloni will say is that this is something which has to
be done in partnership between countries.”

The home secretary also announced this weekend that nearly 13,500
people had been removed from the UK since the election, the highest
number for five years, and that illegal working raids and arrests were
up by a third. Six employers have been charged with employing illegal
workers in the past five months, compared with just four in the two
and a half years before the election. The government is to spend
another £8 million on bodyworn cameras and biometric kits to improve
immigration enforcement operations.

More than 20,000 migrants have arrived in the UK since the election.
Labour says it will work with partners in Europe to tackle smuggling
gangs and deter people from attempting the crossing

STUART BROCK

Even Meloni has faced setbacks. Her Tunisian deal has reportedly led
to police officers raping migrants and dumping them in the desert. And
her flagship deal to return migrants to Albania has been put on hold
after her plans were blocked by Italian courts, based on a European
Court of Justice ruling on what constitutes a safe country.

ADVERTISEMENT

But in two other ways, Meloni has emerged as a serious player. First,
her pragmatism — and a willingness to work with the European
Commission — has distinguished Meloni from other populist leaders in
Europe, such as Hungary’s Viktor Orban and France’s Marine Le Pen.
“She has shown populists can be pragmatists,” D’Alimonte said.
“She is smart enough to know populism wins elections but is not the
way to govern. She has been pragmatic about the EU, Nato and her
budgets, which are not packed with giveaways.”

Second, Meloni has emerged as one of the world’s best proponents of
personal diplomacy. After she sat next to Donald Trump following the
reopening of Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris, the president-elect called
her “a real live wire”. A day later he said: “She’s fantastic,
she is a fantastic leader and person.”

Meloni is also close to Elon Musk, the billionaire owner of X and key
Trump whisperer who has been appointed by the president-elect to slash
US government waste. In September, when Musk presented her with an
award at a Washington ceremony, she praised his “precious genius”
while Musk called Meloni “more beautiful on the inside than she is
on the outside”.

Meloni and Elon Musk have been effusive in their praise for each other

FILIPPO ATTILI/EPA

A British official who has seen her in action said: “She’s funny,
she’s flirty, she’s charismatic with quite a gravelly voice. She
gets on with with people who are different from her. Rishi [Sunak] is
teetotal but she would sit with him and have an Aperol and a fag. When
she hosted the G7 it was in Puglia, which is a less grand part of
Italy. She held it in the hotel where she likes to stay herself. Her
daughter was always there at these summits and they would greet each
other with ‘Mama!’ and ‘Bambina!’”

Fabio Rampelli, an MP in Meloni’s party who has known her since she
was a teenager, attributes her success to her working-class upbringing
in Rome’s Garbatella district: “World leaders are not used to
someone who is informal, who has not been changed by politics and who
says things the way they are,” he said. “Her sense of humour, her
ability to poke fun, comes from being very Roman, because she grew up
in council houses, not on a board of directors. She has an
irresistible self-irony that opens doors.”

From a British point of view, however, Meloni is no Trump clone and
has staked out a politically brave position in support of Ukraine. A
British diplomat said: “She’s maintaining a very robust position
in a country where public opinion is frankly, much more equivocal.
Italy has sent nine tranches of weapons to Ukraine.” When Orban
sought to block European aid to Ukraine, it was Meloni who talked him
out of vetoing it. Might she lean on Trump too?

ADVERTISEMENT

Meloni brought her influence to bear on Hungary’s populist prime
minister, Viktor Orban

JOHANNA GERON/REUTERS

A former Downing Street official said: “What’s really
consequential about her is that she’s on the right, but she’s on
the Atlanticist right — the Thatcher right.” Meloni’s admiration
for Sir Roger Scruton, an influential Tory thinker in the 1980s and
1990s, was a point of bonding with Sunak when they first met. When
Meloni visited No 10, officials showed her papers from the Thatcher
archive in the Thatcher study, a library on the first floor of Downing
Street which the former prime minister used as her office.

Anglo-Italian relations are in as good shape as they have been for
years following the signing, in the days of the Sunak government, with
Italy and Japan to build a new fighter jet together. Since the general
election, 18 Labour ministers have visited Italy. Britain’s
ambassador in Rome, Lord Llewellyn of Steep, is seen as a key link man
and the Italian envoy in London, Inigo Lambertini, is described by
Lord Godson, director of the Policy Exchange think tank, as “the
outstanding diplomatist of the time”.

Godson presented Meloni with the Grotius Prize, named after Hugo
Grotius, one of the founders of international law. He said: “She
broke with some of the more discreditable traditions of the Italian
right of uncritical support for aspects of Russia’s policies.
That’s a big deal. It’s striking that the prime minister of Italy
should be the leader of the European right today. She has impressed
herself on the consciousness of the times in a way that very few other
people have done.”

https://www.thetimes.com/world/europ...rope-w2sljmlkt

[FLenzi]

Se ha la capacità di leggere quest'altro articolone del Times sulla faccenda noterà quanto la Meloni sia effettivamente tenuta in grande considerazione, a dispetto degli haters piddini



HAS GIORGIA MELONI MADE HERSELF THE NEW QUEEN OF EUROPE?

There was a time when new leaders in Europe began life in office by
visiting the three great centres of power: Brussels, Berlin and Paris.
Yet when Yvette Cooper’s plane touched down on Friday evening on a
mission to plug the holes in Britain’s borders, it did so in Rome.

The home secretary was following a path trodden by Sir Keir Starmer,
who visited Italy in September. Cooper spent Saturday with her Italian
counterpart, Matteo Piandetosi, before they jointly addressed the
Atreju festival, an event organised by the Italian prime minister
Giorgia Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party, on how they can tackle
migration together. Cooper’s presence will cement the growing view
in diplomatic circles that Meloni has become one of the key figures in
European politics and an influential voice on the right throughout the
West.

This weekend, Cooper discussed plans with Meloni’s team to work with
Italy to combat illicit financing for the criminal gangs behind
migrant trafficking. Italy has vast expertise from decades of
countering the mafia, while London, thanks to the City, has the best
expertise in Europe on dark finance and money laundering.

• LABOUR PLANS MELONI-STYLE MIGRANT DEALS

Meloni’s emergence as a power player has coincided with the collapse
of Olaf Scholz’s centre-left coalition in Germany and domestic
strife for Emmanuel Macron, the French president, who was forced to
appoint a new prime minister last week after Michel Barnier was forced
out.

ADVERTISEMENT

When Meloni first came to power, in October 2022, she was seen as
riding the populist wave sweeping the West and some wondered how long
she would last in a country notorious for the fragility of its
governments. Yet two years on, Meloni is one of the most secure
leaders in the European Union — and one of the most influential.
With Angela Merkel gone, some in the corridors of power see Meloni
succeeding the former German chancellor as the new queen of European
politics.

Roberto D’Alimonte, a politics professor at Luiss University in
Rome, said: “She is the only prime minister of a major EU country
who can expect to be there in three years — it’s a kind of
stability Italy is not known for.” A senior official in the last
Tory government put it more bluntly: “When she hosted the G7 meeting
[in June], everyone else was a dead man walking.”

Rishi Sunak was out of a job three weeks after cosying up to Meloni at
the G7 summit in Puglia in June

CHRISTOPHER FURLONG/AP

Meloni’s government has also surprised many of its allies with the
way she has combined a tough and effective crackdown on immigration
without embracing the hardline approach associated with Italy’s
neo-fascists (12 of whom were arrested last week for trying to
assassinate her). Meloni has avoided the race-baiting of her coalition
ally Matteo Salvini.

She has also grown her power by quietly forming an effective alliance
with Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Commission,
to tackle immigration — an issue that brought Brussels out in hives
when David Cameron sought curbs on free movement before the EU
referendum in 2016.

D’Alimonte said: “Even Scandinavian social democratic parties are
waking up to the issue. She is on the right side of the right issue at
the right time.” Francesco Galietti, an analyst at the Policy Sonar
consultancy in Rome, added: “Italy has been ahead of the curve, a
petri dish for European politics.”

ADVERTISEMENT

Which explains why Cooper was in Rome this weekend. In addition to her
talks about illicit gang finance, the Home Office is launching new
“upstream communications campaigns” aimed at exposing the lies
told by criminal smuggling gangs. This activity will include warnings
to prospective migrants about the exploitative practices of employers
and the dire and inhumane living conditions of some of those found to
be working illegally, based on real testimonies.

That is an echo of the deal Meloni and von der Leyen struck with
Tunisia to halt sailings across the Mediterranean (which dwarf in
scale and danger those across the Channel). That has helped cut
arrivals in Italy to about 64,000 landings this year, less than half
the 153,000 registered by this time last year. The deal focuses not
just on enforcement: Meloni has also persuaded the rest of the EU to
do more burden-sharing over refugees. And she has also focused on
upstream working with countries in North Africa to persuade people not
to leave. Her phrase is that people should have “the right not to
migrate” rather than feel compelled to do so.

Cooper stressed that Italy had led the way in urging greater
co-operation across Europe to tackle migration and that talks with the
so-called Calais group of countries (the UK, France, Germany,
Netherlands and Belgium) were showing progress. “There’s been a
real gear shift,” Cooper said, “and Italy has been a leading voice
in that. What Meloni will say is that this is something which has to
be done in partnership between countries.”

The home secretary also announced this weekend that nearly 13,500
people had been removed from the UK since the election, the highest
number for five years, and that illegal working raids and arrests were
up by a third. Six employers have been charged with employing illegal
workers in the past five months, compared with just four in the two
and a half years before the election. The government is to spend
another £8 million on bodyworn cameras and biometric kits to improve
immigration enforcement operations.

More than 20,000 migrants have arrived in the UK since the election.
Labour says it will work with partners in Europe to tackle smuggling
gangs and deter people from attempting the crossing

STUART BROCK

Even Meloni has faced setbacks. Her Tunisian deal has reportedly led
to police officers raping migrants and dumping them in the desert. And
her flagship deal to return migrants to Albania has been put on hold
after her plans were blocked by Italian courts, based on a European
Court of Justice ruling on what constitutes a safe country.

ADVERTISEMENT

But in two other ways, Meloni has emerged as a serious player. First,
her pragmatism — and a willingness to work with the European
Commission — has distinguished Meloni from other populist leaders in
Europe, such as Hungary’s Viktor Orban and France’s Marine Le Pen.
“She has shown populists can be pragmatists,” D’Alimonte said.
“She is smart enough to know populism wins elections but is not the
way to govern. She has been pragmatic about the EU, Nato and her
budgets, which are not packed with giveaways.”

Second, Meloni has emerged as one of the world’s best proponents of
personal diplomacy. After she sat next to Donald Trump following the
reopening of Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris, the president-elect called
her “a real live wire”. A day later he said: “She’s fantastic,
she is a fantastic leader and person.”

Meloni is also close to Elon Musk, the billionaire owner of X and key
Trump whisperer who has been appointed by the president-elect to slash
US government waste. In September, when Musk presented her with an
award at a Washington ceremony, she praised his “precious genius”
while Musk called Meloni “more beautiful on the inside than she is
on the outside”.

Meloni and Elon Musk have been effusive in their praise for each other

FILIPPO ATTILI/EPA

A British official who has seen her in action said: “She’s funny,
she’s flirty, she’s charismatic with quite a gravelly voice. She
gets on with with people who are different from her. Rishi [Sunak] is
teetotal but she would sit with him and have an Aperol and a fag. When
she hosted the G7 it was in Puglia, which is a less grand part of
Italy. She held it in the hotel where she likes to stay herself. Her
daughter was always there at these summits and they would greet each
other with ‘Mama!’ and ‘Bambina!’”

Fabio Rampelli, an MP in Meloni’s party who has known her since she
was a teenager, attributes her success to her working-class upbringing
in Rome’s Garbatella district: “World leaders are not used to
someone who is informal, who has not been changed by politics and who
says things the way they are,” he said. “Her sense of humour, her
ability to poke fun, comes from being very Roman, because she grew up
in council houses, not on a board of directors. She has an
irresistible self-irony that opens doors.”

From a British point of view, however, Meloni is no Trump clone and
has staked out a politically brave position in support of Ukraine. A
British diplomat said: “She’s maintaining a very robust position
in a country where public opinion is frankly, much more equivocal.
Italy has sent nine tranches of weapons to Ukraine.” When Orban
sought to block European aid to Ukraine, it was Meloni who talked him
out of vetoing it. Might she lean on Trump too?

ADVERTISEMENT

Meloni brought her influence to bear on Hungary’s populist prime
minister, Viktor Orban

JOHANNA GERON/REUTERS

A former Downing Street official said: “What’s really
consequential about her is that she’s on the right, but she’s on
the Atlanticist right — the Thatcher right.” Meloni’s admiration
for Sir Roger Scruton, an influential Tory thinker in the 1980s and
1990s, was a point of bonding with Sunak when they first met. When
Meloni visited No 10, officials showed her papers from the Thatcher
archive in the Thatcher study, a library on the first floor of Downing
Street which the former prime minister used as her office.

Anglo-Italian relations are in as good shape as they have been for
years following the signing, in the days of the Sunak government, with
Italy and Japan to build a new fighter jet together. Since the general
election, 18 Labour ministers have visited Italy. Britain’s
ambassador in Rome, Lord Llewellyn of Steep, is seen as a key link man
and the Italian envoy in London, Inigo Lambertini, is described by
Lord Godson, director of the Policy Exchange think tank, as “the
outstanding diplomatist of the time”.

Godson presented Meloni with the Grotius Prize, named after Hugo
Grotius, one of the founders of international law. He said: “She
broke with some of the more discreditable traditions of the Italian
right of uncritical support for aspects of Russia’s policies.
That’s a big deal. It’s striking that the prime minister of Italy
should be the leader of the European right today. She has impressed
herself on the consciousness of the times in a way that very few other
people have done.”

https://www.thetimes.com/world/europ...rope-w2sljmlkt

[FLenzi]

[nordista]

Non conosco Gianbruno, preferisco le bionde, ma se la donzella nella foto non ha un pene per me e' OK.
O si deve essere depradati per piacere ai sinistri?

[Dario]

...HAS GIORGIA MELONI MADE HERSELF THE NEW QUEEN OF EUROPE?...

[Dario]

@FLenzi ma questo veleno per i topi di fogna non è ancora stato approvvigionato? Almeno per le feste bisognerebbe provvedere.

[Dr. Gori]

Bruciano le chiappe quando lo dicono all'estero eh?

L'autorevolezza meloniana si fa strada nel mondo

@FLenzi ma questo veleno per i topi di fogna non è ancora stato approvvigionato? Almeno per le feste bisognerebbe provvedere.

Se vuoi vi lascio tranquilli a spammare contro Giorgia, stile forum Gilanico

[FLenzi]

Bruciano le chiappe quando lo dicono all'estero eh?

L'autorevolezza meloniana si fa strada nel mondo

Lo sanno anche all'estero dei suoi gusti???





Se vuoi vi lascio tranquilli a spammare contro Giorgia, stile forum Gilanico

[Dario]

Bruciano le chiappe quando lo dicono all'estero eh?

L'autorevolezza meloniana si fa strada nel mondo







Se vuoi vi lascio tranquilli a spammare contro Giorgia, stile forum Gilanico

Ci lasci? Ma chi cazzo credi di essere.

Intanto la regina d'Europa...