Il Nazismo Ebreo

[antoninus]

[QUOTE=stuart mill]

I musulmani integralisti agiscono in modo palese.--------

vero

Gli ebrei, come sempre, tirano il sasso e nascondono la mano.-------

se ti riferisci alla lobby sionista, hai ragione, ma secondo me rappresenta gli ebrei, come il papa rappresenta i cristiani: poco

Jihad = Amalek.-------

amalek? sarebbe?

Sono entrambi nemici del cristianesimo, punto e basta.---------

beh, non essendo cristiano, non mi interessa molto quello. Quello che mi preoccupa è se sono un pericolo per l'europa e l'india (paese a me molto caro): i muslim lo sono palesemente, sugli ebrei, beh, facciamo distinzione fra israele ed ebrei, i secondi non sono un problema, i primi possono esserlo se ci trascinano in una lunga guerra contro i paesi muslim...

Amalek = Odio e lotta perpetua contro i goyim.

Amalek
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According to the Book of Genesis and 1 Chronicles, Amalek (עֲמָלֵק; Standard Hebrew ʻAmaleq, Tiberian Hebrew ʻĂmālēq) was the son of Eliphaz and the grandson of Esau (Gen. 36:12; 1 Chr. 16); the chief of an Edomite tribe (Gen. 36:16). His mother was a Horite, a tribe whose territory the descendants of Esau had seized.

The "maximalist" understanding of the Bible regards this genealogy as literal. An understanding of the Bible as a cultural repository regards it as traditional ethnology rather than literal genealogy. In this latter view the Amalekites are related to the Edomites (consequently also to the Hebrews) and Horites. This can be concluded from the genealogy in Gen. 36:12; 1 Chr. 16. Amalek is a son of Esau's son Eliphaz and of the concubine Timna, a Horite and sister of Lotan. Amalek, for whatever reason, has become eponymous for the Amalekites. Gen. 36:16 refers to him as the "chief of Amalek." Thus even within a literalist perspective of the Bible, his name can be understood to be a title derived from that of the clan or territory over which he ruled.

An extra-Biblical tradition recorded by Nachmanides relates that the Amalekites were descended from a man named Amalek after whom Esau's grandson was later named. Such an eponymous ancestor of the Amalekites is also mentioned in Arab traditions.

The name is sometimes interpreted as "dweller in the valley" [1] [2], but most specialists regard the origin to be unknown (M. Weippert, Semitische Nomaden des zweiten Jahrtausends. Biblica vol. 55, 1974, 265-280, 427-433).

Contents [hide]
1 Amalekites
2 Allies of the Amalekites
3 Genocide of the Amalekites
4 Symbolism of the Amalekites
4.1 Rejection of God
5 Kings of the Amalekites
6 Listing of Amalek/Amalekite references in the Old Testament
7 External links
8 References



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Amalekites
Some interpret Gen. 14:7 (which refers to the "land of the Amalekites"), to mean that the Amalekites existed as early as the time of Abraham, in the region that would later become the Roman province of Arabia Petraea [3]. This view corroborates Nachmanides' claim of an origin for the Amalekites earlier than Esau's grandson. However the passage in question does not require this interpretation as it may be referring to the region by a name from a later era. However, the Arab historian Masudi, citing traditional Arab history relates that the Amalekites did indeed exist at this early period having originated in the region of Mecca before the time of Abraham.

Proponents of the Documentary Hypothesis of biblical criticism conjecture that Genesis 14 is an isolated source apart from the proposed four main sources (J,E,P, and D) (Friedman, The Bible with Sources Revealed), and consider the mention of Amalekites in this chapter as simply a contradiction between sources.

In the Pentateuch, the Amalekites are nomads who attacked the Hebrews at Rephidim in the desert of Sinai during their exodus from Egypt: "smiting the hindmost, all that were feeble behind," (1 Samuel 15:2). The Tanakh recognizes the Amalekites as indigenous tribesmen, "the first of the nations" (Numbers 24:20) In the southern lowlands too, perhaps the dry grazing lands that are now the Negev (Num. 12, 14), there were aboriginal Amalekites who were daunting adversaries of the Hebrews in the earliest times. "They dwelt in the land of the south...from Havilah until thou comest to Shur" (Num. 13:29; 1 Sam. 15:7). At times said to be allied with the Moabites (Judg. 3:13) and the Midianites (Judges 6). Each of their kings bore the hereditary name of Agag (Num. 24:7; 1 Sam. 15:8). They also attacked the Israelites at Hormah (Num. 14:45). Saul defeated them utterly, but earned the wrath of God by sparing some for use as slaves, and failing to burn their treasures (1 Sam.). Saul also hesitated to kill Agag, at which point Samuel executed the Amalekite king himself.

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Allies of the Amalekites
In the books of 1 Samuel and Judges, the tribe of Kenites are associated with the Amalekites, sometimes their allies, sometimes allied with the tribes of Israel. The Amalek people are invariably enemies of Israel. Saul's successful expedition against the unidentified "city of Amalek," in the plain (1 Sam. 15) resulted in the capture of the Amalekite king, Agag (the only Amalekite name that has been preserved).

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Genocide of the Amalekites
As the Jewish Encyclopedia put it, "David waged a sacred war of extermination against the Amalekites," who subsequently disappeared from history. Long after, in the time of Hezekiah, five hundred Simeonites annihilated the last remnant "of the Amalekites that had escaped" on Mount Seir, and settled in their place (1 Chr. 4:42-43).

The Biblical relationship between the Hebrew and Amalekite tribes was that the Hebrew tribes hated the Amalekites, primarily due to banditry committed by the Amalekites.

"Go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." (1 Sam. 15).
The Jews' manner of dealing with them was extreme, as they could be shown no mercy. Women, children and animals were slain, and no slaves or gold could be taken from them. Rather all were killed, and their valuables were burned. In fact in the account, King Saul lost his divine favour on account that he failed to be sufficiently thorough in the destruction.

"He betook himself to slay the women and the children, and thought he did not act therein either barbarously or inhumanly; first, because they were enemies whom he thus treated, and, in the next place, because it was done by the command of God, whom it was dangerous not to obey" (Flavius Josephus, Antiquites Judicae, Book VI, Chapter 7).
Maimonides explains, however, that the commandment of killing out the nation of Amalek requires the Jewish people to peacefully request of them to accept upon themselves the Noachide laws and pay a tax to the Jewish kingdom. Only if they refuse is the commandment applicable.

See the External Links section for a current rabbinical teaching on the matter.

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Symbolism of the Amalekites
In Jewish tradition, the Amalekites came to represent the archetypal enemy of the Jews. For example, Haman, from the Book of Esther, is called the Agagite, which is interpreted as being a descendant of the Amalekite king Agag.

The term has been used metaphorically to refer to enemies of Judaism throughout history, including the Nazis, and controversially, by some to refer to the Arabs.

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Rejection of God
The concept has long been used by rabbis (particularly the Baal Shem Tov) to represent the rejection of God, or Atheism. Of the 613 mitzvot (commandments) followed by Orthodox Jews, three refer to the Amalekites: to remember what the Amalekites did to the Jews, to not forget what the Amalekites did to the Jews, and to destroy the Amalekites utterly. The rabbis derived these from Deuteronomy 25:17-18, Exodus 17:14 and 1 Sam. 15. Rashi explains the third mitzvah:

From man unto woman, from infant unto suckling, from ox unto sheep, so that the name of Amalek not be mentioned even with reference to an animal by saying "This animal belonged to Amalek".
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Kings of the Amalekites
Esau Agag (1 Sam. 15:8)

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Listing of Amalek/Amalekite references in the Old Testament
Genesis' 14:7; 36:12, 16

Exodus 17:8-11, 13-14, 16

Numbers 13:29; 14:25, 43, 45; 24:20; 25:19

Deuteronomy 25:17

Judges 3:13; 5:14; 6, 33; 7:12; 10:12; 12:15

1 Samuel 14:48;15:2-8, 15, 18, 20, 32; 27:8; 28:18; 30:1, 13, 18

2 Samuel 1:1, 8, 13; 8:12

1 Chronicles 16; 4:43; 18:11

Psalms 83:7

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External links
Wipe Out Amalek, Today? chabad.org
Amalek, Based on the teachings of the Lubavitcher Rebbe
Remembering Amalek
Latznu: Popular Culture and the Disciples of Amalek
Antiquities of the Jews - by Josephus Flavius
The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1901-6: Amalek
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References
The Punishment of Amalek in Jewish Tradition: Coping with the Moral Problem, Avi Sagi, Harvard Theological Review Vol.87, No.3 (1994) p.323-46.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalek"
Categories: Edom | Tanakh people | Torah people

[antoninus]

Antoninus ha litigato col capoufficio ebreo

No, lavoro in proprio.

Piuttosto ce l'ho con gli avvocati ebrei di mia ex-moglie!

[Princ.Citeriore (POL)]

"immenso odio per cristo"...

se è x questo le eroike camicie zozze di garibalto erano soliti pisciare nelle acque santiere e il loro bosso definì Pio IX (nb betatificato da Giovanni Paolo II) un "metro e mezzo di letame" !

nn ho nulla contro gli ebrei, in particolare vi ricordo che questi scritti sono "piuttosto datati", ma nn posso nn ODIARE sti masoni del caxxo ek hanno fatto l'italietta in cui viviamo !!!

[stuart mill]

nn ho nulla contro gli ebrei, in particolare vi ricordo che questi scritti sono "piuttosto datati", ma nn posso nn ODIARE sti masoni del caxxo ek hanno fatto l'italietta in cui viviamo !!!---------

l'italietta liberale era fortissima, una potenza politica ed economica, ha annientato l'impero austroungarico. poi vennero i socialfascisti mussoliniani che, come tutti gli statalisti, non capivano una mazza, e la rovinarono, al punto da farla diventare una barzelletta

[Princ.Citeriore (POL)]

l'italietta liberale era fortissima, una potenza politica ed economica, ha annientato l'impero austroungarico. poi vennero i socialfascisti mussoliniani che, come tutti gli statalisti, non capivano una mazza, e la rovinarono, al punto da farla diventare una barzelletta

LEGGENDARIO !!!
l'italietta (il(liberale faceva scandalosamente SCHIFO, hai mai sentito palralre di Fenestrelle, Lissa, Custoza, Emigarzione di Massa etc etc
Annientato l'Impero ?
certo a CAPORETTO !!!

[stuart mill]

[quote=Princ.Citeriore]LEGGENDARIO !!!
------

leggendaria la tua faziosità: l'economia italiana cresceva a ritmi vertiginosi, l'esercito italiano era considerato uno dei più forti, nel 1911 sconfisse l'impero ottomano, nel 18 sconfisse l'austria(lo sai che dopo caporetto venne il piave, vero?): tutto questro il fascio se lo sognava, e difatti l'italia ha fatto ridere tutti in africa, manco le scarpe avevano i soldati!



l'italietta (il(liberale faceva scandalosamente SCHIFO, hai mai sentito palralre di Fenestrelle, Lissa, Custoza, Emigarzione di Massa etc etc
Annientato l'Impero ?-----------
l'italia liberale ebbe grandi successi, sopratutto co giolitti

certo a CAPORETTO !!!---------

per la serie, qui manca un pezzo di storia...

[Shambler]

No, lavoro in proprio.

Piuttosto ce l'ho con gli avvocati ebrei di mia ex-moglie!

Se qualcuno dovesse leggere il forum...

[antoninus]

Se qualcuno dovesse leggere il forum...

Ho combinato di peggio, credimi.

[tigermen]

Per una volta concordo con aprile cridelle il Nazisdmo era una ben altra cosa ed era riviolto in particolare CONTRO gli Ebrei, ed era un fenomeno anche puramente Europeo volto a distruggere una civiltà che ha avuto oggi come allora e 2000 anni fa luci e ombre come tutte del resto.

[antoninus]

Per una volta concordo con aprile cridelle il Nazisdmo era una ben altra cosa ed era riviolto in particolare CONTRO gli Ebrei, ed era un fenomeno anche puramente Europeo volto a distruggere una civiltà che ha avuto oggi come allora e 2000 anni fa luci e ombre come tutte del resto.

Ho usato il termine "Nazismo Ebreo" per effetto retorico. L'abbinamento delle due parole costituisce una contradizione-- evocando la contraddizione dell'Ipocrisia Ebrea . Quest'Ipocrisia Ebrea e` una "malattia" che viene sempre di piu` notata da scrittori/commentatori ebrei come Jonathan Rosenblum e David Klinghoffer.

Inoltre, come dettato dal Talmud, l'odio degli ebrei deve essere rivolto in particolore CONTRO Amalek.

Chi e` Amalek? I Goyim, naturalmente. I non-ebrei.
Paragonabile agli "infideli" di Islam? No. Perche`, Islam permette la conversione degli infideli. Secondo i principi di Halacha espressi nel Talmud, la conversione dei goyim e` un "abominazione" in quanto rappresenterrebe
una violazione della purezza del popolo ebreo, il popolo eletto.

In questo senso, anche Telesio Interlandi era "talmudico."