E allora il Michigan

[Christine]

http://www.wnem.com/global/video/pop.../&rnd=52595580

[Andrea I Nemesi (POL)]

La popolazione dei musulmani piu' grande degli stati uniti e' quella di Dearborn, Michigan, vicino a Detroit, ma questi sono venuti dal Texas. Bisogna sapere si hanno alcuni rapporti con Dearborn.

Non lo sapevo. Credevo che si concentrassero nelle grandi città della East Coast; so che sono in crescita le conversioni nei quartieri neri delle città del Sud, tipo Atlanta, GE. E' probabile che volessero far saltare il ponte in occasione di quella passeggiata che hai nominato tu...

[Christine]

Non lo sapevo. Credevo che si concentrassero nelle grandi città della East Coast; so che sono in crescita le conversioni nei quartieri neri delle città del Sud, tipo Atlanta, GE. E' probabile che volessero far saltare il ponte in occasione di quella passeggiata che hai nominato tu...

Mi scusi, New York ha piu' arabi. Dearborn e' secondo, ma Dearborn e' molto piu' piccolo quindi quasi 1/3 della popolazione sono arabi.

[matteomatteo]

Chiaro. Volevano colpire un'arteria di comunicazione di primo livello, cercando naturalmente di uccidere il maggior numero di persone possibile, dimostrando di poter colpire al cuore gli USA.
Ma agli USA non la si fa.

sì, come no :

Terrorism charges dropped for cell phone suspects
Feds say no terror concerns about three still held in Michigan

Tuesday, August 15, 2006


MARIETTA, Ohio (AP) -- Last winter, federal authorities warned local officials to be on the lookout for anyone buying large numbers of prepaid cell phones -- devices that could become potential tools for terrorists.

Authorities in Michigan and Ohio clearly listened: In the space of only a few days last week, they arrested five men and charged them with terrorism-related offenses.

But in the days since, the two cases have grown more complicated.

Tuesday, prosecutors in Ohio dropped terrorism charges and released two Michigan men who were arrested after buying large numbers of cell phones, saying they couldn't prove a terrorism link.

And the FBI said Monday it had no information to indicate that three Texas men arrested in Michigan had direct terror ties.

Prosecutors in Michigan, however, were standing by the charges against the three Palestinian-American men living in Texas, though they have not said what they believe the men intended to do with the phones.

The dismissal in the Ohio case, in a one-page court document, came the day after Washington County Prosecutor James Schneider said he didn't have enough evidence to present the felony charges to a grand jury.

Ali Houssaiky and Osama Sabhi Abulhassan, both of Dearborn, Michigan, left prison after paying a reduced bond on the remaining misdemeanor counts of falsification.

"We know it was just a matter of time. We were just hoping it wouldn't be forever," Abulhassan said. "Everybody knew we were innocent. We knew we were innocent."

The remaining counts stem from allegations that the two men initially gave deputies different names than appeared on their IDs. The men also initially said they were buying phones for a relative's construction business, then changed the story when deputies asked for contact information, Schneider said.

Schneider said his office and federal authorities don't believe "the defendants pose an imminent threat at this time."

But he said the investigation remains open and he could still present evidence to a grand jury to pursue terrorism-related charges.

Houssaiky and Abulhassan were stopped by sheriff's deputies for a traffic violation August 8, then arrested after the deputies found 12 cell phones, $11,000 cash, airplane passenger lists and information on airport security checkpoints in their car, authorities said.

Prosecutors have not provided details about the passenger lists or their significance. Defense lawyers have said the flight information consisted of old papers left in the car by a relative who worked at an airport.

The two men acknowledged buying about 600 phones in recent months at stores in southeast Ohio, according to authorities. Investigators said they sold the phones to someone in Dearborn, a Detroit suburb.
1000 phones found in van

The Texas men, Maruan Awad Muhareb, Adham Othman and Louai Othman, were arrested Friday in Caro, Michigan, after purchasing 80 cell phones at a Wal-Mart, police said. Authorities said they found nearly 1,000 phones in their van.

Tuscola County prosecutors charged them with collecting or providing materials for terrorist acts and surveillance of a vulnerable target for terrorist purposes.

The surveillance charge was connected to images of the Mackinac Bridge found on their digital camera, said William Kowalski, assistant special agent in charge of the FBI's Detroit office. He said there was no imminent threat to the bridge.

Michigan State Police Director Col. Peter Munoz, who heads the state's homeland security efforts, said there was no indication the men were plotting to blow up the Mackinac Bridge "or target any other location in Michigan or elsewhere."

Nabih Ayad, a defense attorney representing the Texas men, said that based on Monday's statements by the FBI and Munoz, he planned to file an emergency motion Tuesday for his clients' release on bond.

He said the photos of the Mackinac Bridge were innocent tourist snapshots taken while the men were stuck in traffic. "That's what people do when you see a tourist attraction: They take pictures," he said.
Buying 80-100 cell phones 'unusual' - Gonzales

Louai Othman's wife, Lina Odeh, has said the men were buying the phones to sell to a man in Dallas for a profit of about $5 per phone. She said they were in Michigan because so many people in the Dallas area are doing the same thing that the phones are often sold out.

Officials have said various illegal acts can be committed with prepaid cell phones, including using them as detonators, communicating among terrorists and using the batteries to make methamphetamine.

"I don't know how many of you have ever gone to a store to purchase 80 to 100 cell phones at a time," Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Monday in Chicago. "I would consider that somewhat unusual and I think it would be perfectly legitimate to say, 'Hey, is there something going on here?"'

Supporters of the five men have said all along that their only purpose was to make money through a perfectly legitimate business and that they were targeted because of their Arab descent.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

[Christine]

sì, come no :

Terrorism charges dropped for cell phone suspects
Feds say no terror concerns about three still held in Michigan

Tuesday, August 15, 2006


MARIETTA, Ohio (AP) -- Last winter, federal authorities warned local officials to be on the lookout for anyone buying large numbers of prepaid cell phones -- devices that could become potential tools for terrorists.

Authorities in Michigan and Ohio clearly listened: In the space of only a few days last week, they arrested five men and charged them with terrorism-related offenses.

But in the days since, the two cases have grown more complicated.

Tuesday, prosecutors in Ohio dropped terrorism charges and released two Michigan men who were arrested after buying large numbers of cell phones, saying they couldn't prove a terrorism link.

And the FBI said Monday it had no information to indicate that three Texas men arrested in Michigan had direct terror ties.

Prosecutors in Michigan, however, were standing by the charges against the three Palestinian-American men living in Texas, though they have not said what they believe the men intended to do with the phones.

The dismissal in the Ohio case, in a one-page court document, came the day after Washington County Prosecutor James Schneider said he didn't have enough evidence to present the felony charges to a grand jury.

Ali Houssaiky and Osama Sabhi Abulhassan, both of Dearborn, Michigan, left prison after paying a reduced bond on the remaining misdemeanor counts of falsification.

"We know it was just a matter of time. We were just hoping it wouldn't be forever," Abulhassan said. "Everybody knew we were innocent. We knew we were innocent."

The remaining counts stem from allegations that the two men initially gave deputies different names than appeared on their IDs. The men also initially said they were buying phones for a relative's construction business, then changed the story when deputies asked for contact information, Schneider said.

Schneider said his office and federal authorities don't believe "the defendants pose an imminent threat at this time."

But he said the investigation remains open and he could still present evidence to a grand jury to pursue terrorism-related charges.

Houssaiky and Abulhassan were stopped by sheriff's deputies for a traffic violation August 8, then arrested after the deputies found 12 cell phones, $11,000 cash, airplane passenger lists and information on airport security checkpoints in their car, authorities said.

Prosecutors have not provided details about the passenger lists or their significance. Defense lawyers have said the flight information consisted of old papers left in the car by a relative who worked at an airport.

The two men acknowledged buying about 600 phones in recent months at stores in southeast Ohio, according to authorities. Investigators said they sold the phones to someone in Dearborn, a Detroit suburb.
1000 phones found in van

The Texas men, Maruan Awad Muhareb, Adham Othman and Louai Othman, were arrested Friday in Caro, Michigan, after purchasing 80 cell phones at a Wal-Mart, police said. Authorities said they found nearly 1,000 phones in their van.

Tuscola County prosecutors charged them with collecting or providing materials for terrorist acts and surveillance of a vulnerable target for terrorist purposes.

The surveillance charge was connected to images of the Mackinac Bridge found on their digital camera, said William Kowalski, assistant special agent in charge of the FBI's Detroit office. He said there was no imminent threat to the bridge.

Michigan State Police Director Col. Peter Munoz, who heads the state's homeland security efforts, said there was no indication the men were plotting to blow up the Mackinac Bridge "or target any other location in Michigan or elsewhere."

Nabih Ayad, a defense attorney representing the Texas men, said that based on Monday's statements by the FBI and Munoz, he planned to file an emergency motion Tuesday for his clients' release on bond.

He said the photos of the Mackinac Bridge were innocent tourist snapshots taken while the men were stuck in traffic. "That's what people do when you see a tourist attraction: They take pictures," he said.
Buying 80-100 cell phones 'unusual' - Gonzales

Louai Othman's wife, Lina Odeh, has said the men were buying the phones to sell to a man in Dallas for a profit of about $5 per phone. She said they were in Michigan because so many people in the Dallas area are doing the same thing that the phones are often sold out.

Officials have said various illegal acts can be committed with prepaid cell phones, including using them as detonators, communicating among terrorists and using the batteries to make methamphetamine.

"I don't know how many of you have ever gone to a store to purchase 80 to 100 cell phones at a time," Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Monday in Chicago. "I would consider that somewhat unusual and I think it would be perfectly legitimate to say, 'Hey, is there something going on here?"'

Supporters of the five men have said all along that their only purpose was to make money through a perfectly legitimate business and that they were targeted because of their Arab descent.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

Si cerchi di comprare qualcosa in Dallas, Texas, e sono sold out dove andare? La prossima citta'? Noooo....A Caro, Michigan, ovviamente. Solo 19 ore di macchina da Dallas.

[P.F.Barbaccia]

Notizia del 16 agosto 2006 - 202 Unifil: Livni,no a Paesi nemici Il ministro degli esteri israeliano ha incontrato Kofi Annan (ANSA) - NEW YORK, 16 AGO - Israele non accettera', tra le file dell'Unifil, militari di paesi considerati nemici. Lo ha detto il ministro israeliano Livni. L'esponente del governo ha incontrato il segretario generale Onu Annan. 'Ci aspettiamo una forza mista - ha spiegato - con alcuni paesi europei pronti a contribuire e all'interno di questa forza mista ci potra' essere qualche stato musulmano, se non fa parte dei nemici di Israele. Non sono benvenuti militari di Malaysia o Indonesia'.

[Andrea I Nemesi (POL)]

Mi scusi, New York ha piu' arabi. Dearborn e' secondo, ma Dearborn e' molto piu' piccolo quindi quasi 1/3 della popolazione sono arabi.

Ma perchè così tanti islamici a Dearborn, Michigan? C'è un motivo particolare?

[Christine]

Ma perchè così tanti islamici a Dearborn, Michigan? C'è un motivo particolare?

Sono venuti a lavorare nella automobile industry. C'e' la' il Centre Islamico di America, la moschea piu' grande degli Stati Uniti.

[Christine]

Parlando di Dearborn....

Ford Announces Deep Production Cuts

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/18/D8JJ4L3G1.html

"...Dearborn-based Ford, which lost $254 million in the second quarter, said last month that the speed of the market shift away from trucks had taken it by surprise. Like other U.S. automakers, Ford is heavily dependent on sport utility vehicles and other trucks, which have far higher profit margins than cars. Last year, 68 percent of the vehicles sold by the company in the U.S. were trucks, compared with 58 percent for the industry as a whole.

"An unprecedented spike in gasoline prices during the second quarter impacted our product lineup more than that of our competitors because of the long-standing success of our trucks and SUVs," Bill Ford said in his note Friday.

The nation's second-largest automaker said that by better matching inventories to demand, it can avoid costly incentives and reduce inventory carrying costs for dealers.

Reducing incentives will help improve resale values of vehicles, and more rational inventories will help "stabilize operating patterns for our plants and our suppliers," Mark Fields, Ford's president of the Americas, said in a statement.

The Wall Street Journal, citing unidentified sources, reported Friday that Ford is considering shutting down more factories and cutting salaried jobs and benefits by 10 percent to 30 percent.

Ford spokesman Oscar Suris declined to comment on the report.

The new production schedule will result in temporary shutdown this year at assembly plants in St. Thomas, Ontario; Chicago; Wixom, Mich.; Louisville, Ky.; Wayne, Mich.; St. Paul, Minn.; Kansas City, Mo.; Norfolk, Va.; and Dearborn, Mich.; Ford said"

[Andrea I Nemesi (POL)]

Sono venuti a lavorare nella automobile industry.

Avrei dovuto immaginarlo...
Ultima curiosità: perchè la passeggiata di cui ci informavi avviene proprio il 4 Settembre?