Non si integrano. Perchè?

[9999]

No, è la verità, qui si parla di censura, perchè non si può criticare gli Ebrei, mentre gli altri si? Non c'entra nulla Hitler con tutto questo, le scuse sono sempre buone

Nessuno ti impedisce di iniziare la tua discussione sugli ebrei, che aspetti?

[cireno]

Un discorso simile potrebbe farlo un Hitler, spero che non te ne sia reso conto altrimenti è molto grave

non c'è niente di razzista nelle mie parole, quindi Hitler, che perseguitava gli ebrei in quanto inquinatori della razza ariana, non c'entra un fico.
Io ho scritto semplicemente la realtà: ebrei che vivono nelle nostre città e che quindi sono italiani come tutti gli altri ma di religione diversa ce ne sono quanti ne vuoi. Ebrei che sono italiani de facto ma di nazionalità ebrea anche se quella nazione non esisteva ce ne sono stati anche, magari molti meno ma si, ce ne sono stati. Oggi questo non da adito a nulla di particolare ma chiediti perchè sono nati i ghetti. Chiediti se li hanno voluti "gli altri" a quei tempi, o gli stessi ebrei e, se gli altri, perchè li hanno voluti

[9999]

E ora gli islamici vogliono sbattere fuori i cristiani dalla Siria. Vediamo se le solite scimmie ammaestrate si indinniano per loro come per i palestinazi.

Syria: Muslims threaten to seize Christian lands, tell some Christians to leave their homes or be killed
Jan 1, 2025 3:00 pm By Robert Spencer

https://jihadwatch.org/2025/01/syria...s-or-be-killed

This is how all the lands that are today considered part of the “Islamic world” became Muslim. It was not done by “wisdom and beautiful preaching” (Qur’an 29:46), but by force, threats and intimidation. See The History of Jihad for the full story.



“After an ‘isolated’ incident… Christian existential anxiety in Maaloula, Syria,” translated from “بعد حادثة «فرديّة»… قلق مسيحيّ وجوديّ في معلولا السوريّة” ACI MENA, December 29, 2024:

Since the change in the ruling class in Syria, the Christians of Maaloula have been experiencing existential anxiety that has worsened after an incident that occurred between two Christian and Muslim families. So what is the story? And what is the reality of Christians today in this ancient Christian town?

A church source who preferred to remain anonymous told “ACI MENA” that the regime of former President Bashar al-Assad, after regaining control of Maaloula about 10 years ago, prevented some of the town’s Muslims from returning to it because of their cooperation with the Al-Nusra Front in the killing, kidnapping, and vandalism of Christians and their churches. However, after the fall of the regime, these people returned and entered the town, and some of them exerted pressure on the Christians under the pretext that the Christians had worked to displace them.

The source explained: “Some of the deportees caused problems, and Christians were considered part of the previous regime, knowing that their joy at its fall exceeded that of others; most of our youth emigrated due to compulsory conscription or reserve service requests.”

Regarding the attacks on Christians, the source said: “Threats began against five Christian families to seize their agricultural lands, and some Christians were asked to leave their homes and the town or they would be killed. The reason for these threats was either an old vendetta or some Christians were accused of carrying weapons and joining the ‘National Defense.’”

The source added: “The threats turned into action when Bashar Shahin’s house and his family’s house and the cafeteria he owned were seized, despite some Muslims defending them. After mediation, he was allowed to take his belongings from the house. Two houses were also broken into and robbed. There are also other types of harassment and provocations, such as shooting near a priest while he was distributing Christmas gifts to children in a kindergarten, in addition to Christians informing a priest that they had been spat upon.

The source confirmed that the one in charge in Maaloula is a person who belongs to the Turkish Suleiman Shah faction (the name of the grandfather of Osman I, the founder of the Ottoman Empire). Therefore, there were appeals from the people of Maaloula and its church officials for the intervention of Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham.

He explained: “The Christians of Maaloula do not feel reassured; with the absence of the state, upon whose presence we relied, security has disappeared, especially since weapons have been completely withdrawn from the Christians and left in the hands of others. We are advocates of peace and we want to build Maaloula hand in hand with all its residents.”

He continued: “The major incident occurred at dawn on December 26, when Abdul Salam Diab and his father stormed Ghassan Zakhem’s farm with the aim of stealing it, which resulted in the death of Abdul Salam. But unfortunately, it was portrayed as a religious issue and that Christians wanted to attack and kill Muslims, knowing that it was a purely individual issue.”

The source concluded by pointing out that this incident was the spark for many Christian families to leave the town out of fear, due to the lack of a force to protect them and ensure their safety. Out of about 325 Christian families, about 80 families left. The incident also led to the seizure of four Christian homes belonging to relatives of Zakham.

Regarding the details of the December 26 incident, an informed source from the Christian residents of Maaloula told ACI Mina: “Before Christmas, young men from Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham insisted on Christians decorating their homes to avoid any problems, but things did not go normally.”

He continued: “At dawn on December 26, the surveillance cameras at Ghassan Zakhem’s farm indicated the presence of masked men who broke the lock on the farm’s door. Ghassan and his son Sarkis headed to the location immediately and asked the members of the security committees to accompany them, but they did not come despite their promise to come.”

The source confirmed that after the farm owners arrived at the location, an exchange of fire took place between the two parties, resulting in the death of the person who attacked the land (Abdul Salam). Ghassan turned himself in to Father Fadi Al-Barkil, who in turn handed him over to the competent authorities in Damascus to prevent any disastrous strife.

[Hynkel]

non c'è niente di razzista nelle mie parole, quindi Hitler, che perseguitava gli ebrei in quanto inquinatori della razza ariana, non c'entra un fico.
Io ho scritto semplicemente la realtà: ebrei che vivono nelle nostre città e che quindi sono italiani come tutti gli altri ma di religione diversa ce ne sono quanti ne vuoi. Ebrei che sono italiani de facto ma di nazionalità ebrea anche se quella nazione non esisteva ce ne sono stati anche, magari molti meno ma si, ce ne sono stati. Oggi questo non da adito a nulla di particolare ma chiediti perchè sono nati i ghetti. Chiediti se li hanno voluti "gli altri" a quei tempi, o gli stessi ebrei e, se gli altri, perchè li hanno voluti

Eh appunto, i ghetti... si parte dai ghetti e si arriva alla soluzione finale.

[Hynkel]

E ora gli islamici vogliono sbattere fuori i cristiani dalla Siria. Vediamo se le solite scimmie ammaestrate si indinniano per loro come per i palestinazi.

Syria: Muslims threaten to seize Christian lands, tell some Christians to leave their homes or be killed
Jan 1, 2025 3:00 pm By Robert Spencer

https://jihadwatch.org/2025/01/syria...s-or-be-killed

This is how all the lands that are today considered part of the “Islamic world” became Muslim. It was not done by “wisdom and beautiful preaching” (Qur’an 29:46), but by force, threats and intimidation. See The History of Jihad for the full story.



“After an ‘isolated’ incident… Christian existential anxiety in Maaloula, Syria,” translated from “بعد حادثة «فرديّة»… قلق مسيحيّ وجوديّ في معلولا السوريّة” ACI MENA, December 29, 2024:

Since the change in the ruling class in Syria, the Christians of Maaloula have been experiencing existential anxiety that has worsened after an incident that occurred between two Christian and Muslim families. So what is the story? And what is the reality of Christians today in this ancient Christian town?

A church source who preferred to remain anonymous told “ACI MENA” that the regime of former President Bashar al-Assad, after regaining control of Maaloula about 10 years ago, prevented some of the town’s Muslims from returning to it because of their cooperation with the Al-Nusra Front in the killing, kidnapping, and vandalism of Christians and their churches. However, after the fall of the regime, these people returned and entered the town, and some of them exerted pressure on the Christians under the pretext that the Christians had worked to displace them.

The source explained: “Some of the deportees caused problems, and Christians were considered part of the previous regime, knowing that their joy at its fall exceeded that of others; most of our youth emigrated due to compulsory conscription or reserve service requests.”

Regarding the attacks on Christians, the source said: “Threats began against five Christian families to seize their agricultural lands, and some Christians were asked to leave their homes and the town or they would be killed. The reason for these threats was either an old vendetta or some Christians were accused of carrying weapons and joining the ‘National Defense.’”

The source added: “The threats turned into action when Bashar Shahin’s house and his family’s house and the cafeteria he owned were seized, despite some Muslims defending them. After mediation, he was allowed to take his belongings from the house. Two houses were also broken into and robbed. There are also other types of harassment and provocations, such as shooting near a priest while he was distributing Christmas gifts to children in a kindergarten, in addition to Christians informing a priest that they had been spat upon.

The source confirmed that the one in charge in Maaloula is a person who belongs to the Turkish Suleiman Shah faction (the name of the grandfather of Osman I, the founder of the Ottoman Empire). Therefore, there were appeals from the people of Maaloula and its church officials for the intervention of Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham.

He explained: “The Christians of Maaloula do not feel reassured; with the absence of the state, upon whose presence we relied, security has disappeared, especially since weapons have been completely withdrawn from the Christians and left in the hands of others. We are advocates of peace and we want to build Maaloula hand in hand with all its residents.”

He continued: “The major incident occurred at dawn on December 26, when Abdul Salam Diab and his father stormed Ghassan Zakhem’s farm with the aim of stealing it, which resulted in the death of Abdul Salam. But unfortunately, it was portrayed as a religious issue and that Christians wanted to attack and kill Muslims, knowing that it was a purely individual issue.”

The source concluded by pointing out that this incident was the spark for many Christian families to leave the town out of fear, due to the lack of a force to protect them and ensure their safety. Out of about 325 Christian families, about 80 families left. The incident also led to the seizure of four Christian homes belonging to relatives of Zakham.

Regarding the details of the December 26 incident, an informed source from the Christian residents of Maaloula told ACI Mina: “Before Christmas, young men from Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham insisted on Christians decorating their homes to avoid any problems, but things did not go normally.”

He continued: “At dawn on December 26, the surveillance cameras at Ghassan Zakhem’s farm indicated the presence of masked men who broke the lock on the farm’s door. Ghassan and his son Sarkis headed to the location immediately and asked the members of the security committees to accompany them, but they did not come despite their promise to come.”

The source confirmed that after the farm owners arrived at the location, an exchange of fire took place between the two parties, resulting in the death of the person who attacked the land (Abdul Salam). Ghassan turned himself in to Father Fadi Al-Barkil, who in turn handed him over to the competent authorities in Damascus to prevent any disastrous strife.

... e meno male che in Siria era arrivata la libertà

[Troll]

E ora gli islamici vogliono sbattere fuori i cristiani dalla Siria. Vediamo se le solite scimmie ammaestrate si indinniano per loro come per i palestinazi.

Syria: Muslims threaten to seize Christian lands, tell some Christians to leave their homes or be killed
Jan 1, 2025 3:00 pm By Robert Spencer

https://jihadwatch.org/2025/01/syria...s-or-be-killed

This is how all the lands that are today considered part of the “Islamic world” became Muslim. It was not done by “wisdom and beautiful preaching” (Qur’an 29:46), but by force, threats and intimidation. See The History of Jihad for the full story.



“After an ‘isolated’ incident… Christian existential anxiety in Maaloula, Syria,” translated from “بعد حادثة «فرديّة»… قلق مسيحيّ وجوديّ في معلولا السوريّة” ACI MENA, December 29, 2024:

Since the change in the ruling class in Syria, the Christians of Maaloula have been experiencing existential anxiety that has worsened after an incident that occurred between two Christian and Muslim families. So what is the story? And what is the reality of Christians today in this ancient Christian town?

A church source who preferred to remain anonymous told “ACI MENA” that the regime of former President Bashar al-Assad, after regaining control of Maaloula about 10 years ago, prevented some of the town’s Muslims from returning to it because of their cooperation with the Al-Nusra Front in the killing, kidnapping, and vandalism of Christians and their churches. However, after the fall of the regime, these people returned and entered the town, and some of them exerted pressure on the Christians under the pretext that the Christians had worked to displace them.

The source explained: “Some of the deportees caused problems, and Christians were considered part of the previous regime, knowing that their joy at its fall exceeded that of others; most of our youth emigrated due to compulsory conscription or reserve service requests.”

Regarding the attacks on Christians, the source said: “Threats began against five Christian families to seize their agricultural lands, and some Christians were asked to leave their homes and the town or they would be killed. The reason for these threats was either an old vendetta or some Christians were accused of carrying weapons and joining the ‘National Defense.’”

The source added: “The threats turned into action when Bashar Shahin’s house and his family’s house and the cafeteria he owned were seized, despite some Muslims defending them. After mediation, he was allowed to take his belongings from the house. Two houses were also broken into and robbed. There are also other types of harassment and provocations, such as shooting near a priest while he was distributing Christmas gifts to children in a kindergarten, in addition to Christians informing a priest that they had been spat upon.

The source confirmed that the one in charge in Maaloula is a person who belongs to the Turkish Suleiman Shah faction (the name of the grandfather of Osman I, the founder of the Ottoman Empire). Therefore, there were appeals from the people of Maaloula and its church officials for the intervention of Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham.

He explained: “The Christians of Maaloula do not feel reassured; with the absence of the state, upon whose presence we relied, security has disappeared, especially since weapons have been completely withdrawn from the Christians and left in the hands of others. We are advocates of peace and we want to build Maaloula hand in hand with all its residents.”

He continued: “The major incident occurred at dawn on December 26, when Abdul Salam Diab and his father stormed Ghassan Zakhem’s farm with the aim of stealing it, which resulted in the death of Abdul Salam. But unfortunately, it was portrayed as a religious issue and that Christians wanted to attack and kill Muslims, knowing that it was a purely individual issue.”

The source concluded by pointing out that this incident was the spark for many Christian families to leave the town out of fear, due to the lack of a force to protect them and ensure their safety. Out of about 325 Christian families, about 80 families left. The incident also led to the seizure of four Christian homes belonging to relatives of Zakham.

Regarding the details of the December 26 incident, an informed source from the Christian residents of Maaloula told ACI Mina: “Before Christmas, young men from Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham insisted on Christians decorating their homes to avoid any problems, but things did not go normally.”

He continued: “At dawn on December 26, the surveillance cameras at Ghassan Zakhem’s farm indicated the presence of masked men who broke the lock on the farm’s door. Ghassan and his son Sarkis headed to the location immediately and asked the members of the security committees to accompany them, but they did not come despite their promise to come.”

The source confirmed that after the farm owners arrived at the location, an exchange of fire took place between the two parties, resulting in the death of the person who attacked the land (Abdul Salam). Ghassan turned himself in to Father Fadi Al-Barkil, who in turn handed him over to the competent authorities in Damascus to prevent any disastrous strife.

lo sai vero che gli antiamericani antisraeliani filopalestinesi filorussi filoiraniani che non hanno gradito il rovesciamento di Assad tendono a essere critici dei nuovi padroni della Siria?

[topquark]

Se butto giù un palazzo per uccidere un nemico massacrando contestualmente centinaia di civili innocenti ... non posso accampare la scusa che il nemico usava i civili come "scudi umani" per sfuggire dalle mie colpe... perché la responsabilità di quei morti è mia e solo mia.

Centinaia no: UNO solo in media.
Si stima che siano state lanciate su Gaza ca 20.000 missili/bombe, e i morti civili sono ca 20.000 (a cui si sommano ca altrettanti combattenti).

Gli israeliani sono i piu incapaci genocidi della storia a quanto pare.

[topquark]

Se da quel palazzo lanciano missili contro di me ho il diritto di distruggere i razzi e chi li lancia. Piuttosto sarebbe ora che i civili palestinesi si dissociassero da hamas, stanchi di essere usati come scudi.

Ma quanto pare non succede....

A quanto pare è proprio cosi.. l'80% della popolazione sostiene hamas e pensa che gli ebrei dovrebbero semplicemente "sparire" dalla zona.. non si sa bene dove czz dovrebbero andare secondo loro..

[Triangolo nero]

Centinaia no: UNO solo in media.
Si stima che siano state lanciate su Gaza ca 20.000 missili/bombe, e i morti civili sono ca 20.000 (a cui si sommano ca altrettanti combattenti).

Gli israeliani sono i piu incapaci genocidi della storia a quanto pare.

Chi lo stima???
Comunque - stando ai tuoi dati - è più o meno lo stesso numero di bombe sganciate a Dresda in due notti... con un numero di vittime simili... certe "stime" sono addirittura molto inferiori ai 40.000 di Gaza (qualcuno ha stimato "solo" 15.000 vittime)

Poco meno di 6.000 tonnellate di bombe con una media di 250 kg per bomba (quelle incendiarie pesavano un po' meno di quelle "standard" con 100 kg di materiale esplosivo)... quindi stiamo parlando di circa 24mila bombe in una superficie minore di Gaza.
Gli alleati erano ancora più incapaci dei kippati??? Stando alle tue "stime" certamente sì.

[Triangolo nero]

Eh appunto, i ghetti... si parte dai ghetti e si arriva alla soluzione finale.

Si parte dall'antisionismo e si finisce ad Auschwitz.