gesù in oriente

[Patto]

Che palle tutti questi copia incolla. Perchè non scrivete un sunto?

[trenta81]

APOLLONO DI TIANA
Apollonio,è piuttosto una leggenda,circolavno su di lui varie leggende,quello che sappiamo veramente di lui,lo scrisse Filostrato agli inizi del III secolo,ma è talmente pieno di leggende e magia,questo suo libro,e per questo cadde nell'oblio,perché i pagani si convertivano al cristianesimo,e si staccavano definitivamente dal paganesimo e dalla magia e stregoneria.Apollonio se per certi aspetti somiglia un virtuoso,un asceta,era sempre un mago,e praticava la magia,e per tale motivo è stato una volta condannato.
I cristiani ormai conosciuta la Luce e la Verità e la Santità e la salvezza,calcolavano maghi e magia come oper peccaminose e del demonio,spazzatura,quindi Apollonio ai loro occhi di cristiani appariva un diavolo di stregone dannato.Recentemente,la figura di Apolonio è rivalutata col diffondersi della moda della magia.

si è vero, ma la storia è affascinante lo stesso, di gesu si è scritto molto e parlato molto, molte sono state ipotesi che sarebbe stato in viaggio in india tibet in egitto ecc, la verita del tutto non si sa

[mosongo]

http://it.geocities.com/saibabaegesu/vitanascosta.htm

Swami Abhedananda

Lo swami Abhedananda (1866-1939) fu un discipolo diretto di Sri Ramakrishna (1836-1886), uno dei più grandi santi indiani del XXIX secolo.

Dopo la pubblicazione dei resoconti di Nicolas Notovich, vi furono alcuni critici che sostennero che Notovich non fece mai un viaggio al monastero di Hemis e che non trovò mai i manoscritti di cui parla.

Nel 1922 Swami Abedhananda, dopo aver letto il libro di Notovich, decise di intraprendere personalmente un viaggio al monastero di Hemis per tentare di verificare se i documenti che parlano del soggiorno di Gesù in India prima della crocifissione esistevano realmente o meno.

Ci sono alcuni studiosi, come Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, che pensano che Gesù fosse troppo giovane all'età di 13 anni per intraprendere un simile lungo viaggio, e sostengono che Gesù sia andato in India solo dopo la crocifissione.

Nel 1929, lo swami Abedhananda pubblicò un resoconto del suo viaggio dal titolo Kashmir O Tibbate. Lo swami sostenne di aver toccato personalmente con mano i manoscritti antichi e, con l'aiuto di un lama che lo assisteva, realizzò una propria traduzione indipendente dei documenti.

Il lama che gli stava facendo da guida prese una manoscritto dagli scaffali e lo mostrò allo Swami. Gli disse che si trattava di una traduzione esatta del manoscritto originale che si trovava nel monastero di Marbour vicino a Lhasa. Il manoscritto originale, ha spiegato, era in lingua Pali, mentre il manoscritto che è stato conservato a Hemis (quello che Nicolas Notovitch sostenne di vedere e che lo swami successivamente vide nel 1922) è stato scritto in lingua tibetana.

Il manoscritto consisteva di quattordici capitoli e duecentoventiquattro versi chiamati slokas.

Lo swami Abhedananda visse in America del Nord per circa venticinque anni e fece conoscenza di personaggi come Thomas Edison, William James ed il Dott. Max Muller.

E' interessante notare che Abedhananda era inizialmente scettico sui risultati del Notovitch. Infatti, egli era determinato a trovare una copia del manoscritto di Hemis per denunciarlo come frode. Ma scoprì invece che il manoscritto esisteva realmente. Lo swami allora si convinse che la scoperta di Notovitch era genuina.

Il libro di Abhedananda, Kashmir O Tibbate, include una traduzione in bengali di duecentoventiquattro versi che sono essenzialmente gli stessi versi scoperti e registrati da Notovich.

Se Gesù sia andato in India prima della crocifissione, o dopo la crocifissione, oppure sia prima che dopo, ciò che importa è che nei manoscritti di Hemis è registrata prcisamente la presenza di Gesù in India.

Queste informazioni sono tratte da un libro intitolato "Il viaggio di Swami Abhedananda in Kashmir e in Tibet" di Ansupati Dasgupta e Kunja Bihari Kundu, pubblicato dal Ramakrishna Vedanta Math Publication Department, 19B, Raja Rajkrishna Street, Calcutta-700 006, India.

Questo libro può essere acquistato su: http://www.amazon.com

[darwin60]

Gesù e citato anche nel corano, l'aspetto fisico sicuramente non è quello rappresentato dalle icone giunte a noi, tantomeno quello della sindone, sicuramente attendibile la pelle scura cosi come i capelli.
Secondo me l'immagine di Gesù non conta molto così come non contano i miracoli, mentre quello che è importante è il suo messaggio d'Amore in un contesto cronologico e geopolitico che era ed è (visto il mondo) rivoluzionario.

[anuta]

Ho scoperto il sito del Messia in Italia ! www.messia2.it
Forse si tratta di una provocazione intenzionale.
L' autore si presenta come il Messia, che risponde personalmente alle aspettative di chi lo ha preatteso nel Ritorno.
Sembra soddisfare molti dei requisiti multiconfessionali che allargano l' ottica religiosa tradizionale cristiano cattolica, alla visione esoterico-spirituale di origine mediorientale.
Cita i suoi viaggi in Oriente nel territorio dello Srinagar, prima e dopo la sua resurrezione dal coma, indotto dalla sincope cardiaca che l' avrebbe ucciso, ma che, grazie alla lancia del centurione, liberò provvidenzialmente la vescicola pleuritica dall' acqua e dalla morte conseguente.
Molto interessante il mito di Osiride e il passaggio del Bardo che l' autore avrebbe attraversato, fino a raggiungere il tempio dell' archivio della memoria genetica dei figli di Dio.

Prima di consideralo solo una stravaganza satirica o demenziale ,suggerisco a tutti di visionare il sito. C' è molto presentato in forma ultrasapienziale: l' autore l' ho conosciuto... Per me non è affatto uno dei soliti falsi cristi..

[mosongo]

Beh, se pensiamo che l'Occidente ha ricominciato a "guardare" all'Oriente con Schopenhauer, la dice tutta sul potere della chiesa in Occidente!
Il libro "Sulle tracce di Gesù l'Esseno" di F. M. Hassnain parla chiaro a proposito degli agenti del Vaticano che hanno fatto di tutto per far sparire tracce dell'esistenza di Gesù in Oriente!

[AuspiciousMerit]

VOI TUTTI CHE VORRESTE UN GESU' INDU',BUDDHISTA,MORTO IN KASHMIR,VE LO POTETE SCORDARE.STUDI SERISSIMI HANNO RIVELATO CHE QUESTE SONO TUTTE INVENZIONI DI CERTI CENTRI OCCULTI,CHE MIRANO A DEGLI SCOPI PRECISI,PEGGIO PER CHI CREDE A QUESTE BUFALE,E ABBANDONA LA VIA DELLA VERITA'.

Caro amico,
io non ci tengo ad avere un Gesù buddhista o induista. Per due ragioni:

A- Non esiste prova nemmeno dell'esistenza di Gesù, e quindi tutto ciò che si può dire su di lui non ha alcun vero fondamento. Questo vale non solo per quelli che parlano di un Gesù che è andato in India, ma vale anche per ciò che dicono i cristiani.

B- Nel qual caso Gesù fosse esistito (cosa che comunque, personalmente, credo), e anche nel caso dovessi riconoscere il potere spirituale di Gesù, non avrei alcun bisogno di un Gesù che va in India, o che si comporta esteriormente in modo "buddhista" o "indù" o "esotico". I Bodhisattva (se fossi indù direi "Avatara") si manifestano nel modo più appropriato per essere di beneficio alle persone con una particolare forma mentis, e di un determinato contesto. Nel caso quindi che Gesù fosse esistito, e fosse stato un Bodhisattva, ha dato un insegnamento appropriato per portare un poco di virtù in persone con una visione alquanto limitata.

[anuta]

Secondo me Gesù era un uomo molto elevato nella coscienza divina della natura estatica dell' amore, quanto nella profonda umanità della più compassionevole partecipazione alla sofferenza.
Distacco totale e partecipazione assoluta al comune buon senso o al tacito dissenso, lo resero traducibile e interpretabile in qualunque aspetto della Spiritualità, da Oriente a Occidente, secondo l' aspetto messianico che affratella tutti i grandi maestri della tradizione religiosa precedente o attuale.
Nel suo insegnamento l' uomo oltrepassa il Giudizio e la Pena e si sottomette alla Grazia della donna che lo concepisce e lo "porta alla luce", attraverso il passaggio tra le acque lunari del Battesimo (nel ventre materno) e il fuoco del calore del Sole, che riscalda la vita.
Padre, Madre e Figlio, nell' eredità dei figli di Dio, trasmettono la memoria genetica dell' uno all' altro e testimoniano dello stesso Spirito (seme), che li
accumuna per differenze e somiglianze..
Capire quanto Gesù abbia lavorato come "figlio d'uomo", per "divenire" figlio di Dio, significherebbe realizzare lo stesso percorso e "raggiungerlo" nei Reami di consapevolezza che aprono gli occhi alle visioni estatiche del Regno di Dio, che abbiamo perduto, danneggiando la nostra Terra.
Non serve un Messia dotato di poteri divini...
Trovare un uomo, che lo sia veramente, è già molto difficile oggi...
Ci basta l' Uomo : ecce homo, disse Pilato, un Re fa troppa paura, sopratutto se devia il popolo, nel suo contributo, al Cesare di questo mondo...
Un Messia che scendesse dai Cieli farebbe psicotizzare chiunque: atei, religiosi, fanatici, politici, militari, servizi sociali, psichiatri...
Nessuno resterebbe sano di mente dinnanzi a un tale potere: impazzirebbero in molti..basti pensare cosa hanno potuto fare a un povero Cristo, di nome Gesù, uomo come gli altri.
Se abbiamo fatto questo a un uomo, cosa saremmo capaci di fare a un Dio?
Per questo non si fa mai vedere dalle nostre parti...

[miroslav]

Refuting False Theories Against the Resurrection of Jesus Christ : The Swoon Theory

IntroductionPhilip Schaff, the great historian wrote, “the purpose of the historian is not to construct a history from preconceived notions and to adjust it to his own liking, but to reproduce it from the best evidence and to let it speak for itself.”
This study will cover only a few of the most popular theoretical explanations that have been set forth, generally by unbelievers or liberal theologians who very often operate out of a moral twist to explain away the resurrection of Jesus Christ. They reject the evidence not because it is insufficient, but because of its moral implications on their lives.
The Swoon Theory or Resuscitation TheoryThis theory says that Jesus did not really die, He only swooned, therefore the disciples saw only a revived or resuscitated Christ. Christ was nailed to a cross and suffered from shock, pain and loss of blood. But instead of actually dying, He only fainted (swooned) from exhaustion. When He was placed in the tomb, He was still alive and the disciples, mistaking Him for dead, buried Him alive. After several hours, He revived in the coolness of the tomb, arose, and departed. Some people go beyond this theory to claim that Jesus visited his disciples and then went to Kashmir to preach to the "Lost Tribes of Israel" with His mother, Mary. It is also claimed that Jesus died in Kashmir and buried there. This theory was made popular by Ahmadiya Muslims as the Quran states that Christ did not die on the cross1 although it was introduce by Karl Bahrdt, Karl Venturini and others.
The Refutation
This theory completely ignores the evidences of His death and would require a greater miracle than the resurrection.

The Physical Condition of Christ After Crucifixion. A word about the Roman Method of Crucifixion would be helpful in our case. Crucifixion was the worst form of execution in the Roman Law. It was so painful that this death was only given to the worst criminals. The Roman Law states that no Roman Citizen must be crucified under any circumstance.
But preceding the crucifixion, Jesus was exposed to a brutal flogging by the Roman soldiers2. These floggings usually consisted of thirty nine lashes but frequently were a lot more than that depending on the mood of the soldier. The soldier would use a whip of branided leather throngs with metal balls woven into them. When the whip would strike flesh these balls would cause deep bruises or contusions, which would break open with further blows. And the whip had pieces of sharp bone as well, which would cut the skin severely. Some people would die from this kind of beating even before they could be crucified. On other occasions the victim would go into a state called Hypovolemic shock. It is a condition in which the person suffers the effects of losing a large amount of blood. In this state, the heart tries to pump blood which isn't there. As the result the blood pressure drops, causing fainting or collapse. This has caused Jesus to collapse when He was carrying the cross. Then the kidneys stop producing urine to maintain what volume is left. The person becomes very thirsty as the body wants some fluids to replace the lost blood volume. This is why Jesus said "I thirst".3
After this comes the more painful part as if the flogging procedure was not painful engough. Jesus was nailed to the horizontal beam with nails that are five to seven inchs long. This would crush the largest nerve going out to the hand. When the cross was hoisted nail will also be driven through the feets of the prisoner. When hoisted the arms would have been stretched, dislocating the shoulders. This would fullfill the prophecy in Psalm 22 which told says "My bones are out of joint". The pain experinced by the victims were absolutely unbearable that they had to invent a new word excruciating to describe this pain.
Once a person is hanging in the vertical position, crucifixion is essentially an agonizingly slow death by asphyxiation. The reason is that the stresses on the muscles and diaphragm put the chest inot the inhaled position; basically, in order ot exhale, the individual must push up on his feet so the tension on the mucles would be eased for a moment. In doing so the nail would tear thruough the feet, eventually locking up angainst the tarsal bones. This would go on and on until complete exhaustion would take over, and the person would'nt be able to push and breathe anymore.
To say that anyone could survive such a punishment and survie is lunacy.
Historical Documents. When examining this theory, ask yourself how much evidence is there to support this theory. This theory is one desperatly lacking proof. The death of Christ was recorded by four diffrent people. Thery are many external documents also to support this theory. Tacitus, the Roman historian quotes “The originator of that name, Christus(Christ), had been executed when Tiberuis was emperor by order of the procurator Pontius Pilatus”4. There are more documents that support this fact. The Bible says that the Roman soldiers did not break Jesus’ legs because they saw that He was already dead5. Pontius Pilate ordered a centurion to verify the death of Jesus6. He couldn’t make a mistake because he would have to pay for it with his life. A Roman soldier plunged a spear into Jesus side and blood poured out7. Medical experts say that if He were not already dead, this would have killed Him. Others say that pouring out of blood and water was the proof that Jesus was already dead.
Methord of Burial. The body of Jesus was wrapped in a linen cloth together with 70 rathel of embamming spices(in liquid form). This was tightly wrapped around His body. The spices would make the linen very hard as the spices would harden. This would make it impossible for a man to qet out of this wrapping even though he is alive. This was placed in a tomb cut out of solid rock. A very large stone weighing about 2 tons was rolled against the entrance. Roman watch of strictly disciplined men stood guard at the tomb according to the instructions of the authorities8. They obviously wanted the body to stay behind the stone barrier. Yet the tomb is empty till today.
The swoon theory would require that Jesus, in his very weak condition, would wriggle out of the wrappings, push aside the 2 ton stone alone and fight the migthy Roman soldiers and walked the long distence to Kashmir.
On account of the overwelhming evidence that I have presented before you, we come to the conclusion that what gospels say about the life, death and ressurection of Christ are actual facts and incontrovertible truth.
Evidence of Ressurection

Appearances of Jesus. Jesus appeared to his disciples and many others for 40 days after His resurrection. More than 500 people saw the resurrected Christ at the same time during this period9. History also supports this fact. The historian Josephus wrote “For Jesus appeared to them the third day alive again, as the holy prophets had predicted”. These appearances can only be possible if He rose from the dead. This evidence strongly points towards the resurrection of Jesus.
Transformation of People. Christ transformed people in history and still is transforming people today. This is only possible if he is alive. He transformed his disciples. They all fled out at the time of His capture. But after a few days they became men who were ready to die for Him. Only one of the disciples died a natural death. Others were stoned, crucified killed by sword etc. Only the conviction that Jesus conquered death could transform them. The disciple saw the risen Jesus. If they had not seen Him, they would never have given their lives for what they knew was a lie. And such lives of conviction led many such Christians to do the same in times of persecution in history.
1. Surah IV:156-1574. Annals XV,447. John 1902. John 19:15. John 1938. Matthew 27:663. John 19:286. Mark 15:43-459. I Corinthians 15:6

[miroslav]

LE CONTRADDIZIONI DI AMAHD

Bismillah al-Rehman al-RaheemAnti Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam
8th August 2001





Where is the Grave of Jesus?
Question for Ahmadis!!
by
Dr. Rashid
Dear Qadiani/Ahmadi Readers!
Peace be on those who follow the hidayah
Mirza Gulam Ahmad Qadiani, the founder of Ahmadiyya Movement claimed:

"God has revealved to me in his special inspiration that Maseeh ibne Maryam is dead." (Tauzeeh-e-Maram, Roohani Khazain vol 3 p.402)
"I have been informed about the grave of Eisa (in Kashmir). And I have been informed by Holy Quran and God's Revelation to me about the Death of Jesus." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.358, 361)

Is this the tomb of Jesus?

"Tomb of Christ" (7/24) At the very center of Christianity, a mystery as old as the Christian faith is closer to being solved. An archaeological team from Oxford University has been hard at work attempting to prove that Jerusalem's Church of the Holy Sepulchre is the actual location of Christ's burial. After a decade, Martin Biddle and his wife, Birthe KjØlbye-Biddle, have unearthed the remains of earlier structures on the site and an original rock-cut tomb hidden within the walls of the present 19th-century edicule, or "little house." Believed to mark the site of Christ's tomb, the edicule has never, until now, been subject to any form of archaeological study or scientific investigation.
http://www.pbs.org/whatson/press/jul01/secretsofdead.html

What would you say to this?
Or is the Tomb of Jesus in Kashmir?

Another website called 'Tomb of Jesus' goes to extreme length to prove that Tomb of Jesus is in Kashmir. Although the owner of website (Tombmaster) denies that he belong to any religious group, but soon the cat comes out of the bag when the owner of this website confesses on Ahmadi forums that he is Ahmadi and is very close to Mirza Tahir, the Qadiani Khalifa. He writes:

"After surviving the crucifixion, Jesus Christ arrived in Kashmir, where he took up residence for the remainder of his life. There he ministered to Israelite tribes of the area, continuing to preach. He eventually married a woman named Maryan, who bore him children, and, so the theory states, he died at the age of 120 years. His tomb [see picture of his tomb on our home page] is located in the Mohala Kan Yar district of the capital city of Srinagar, Jammu & Kashmir, Northern India, and is called the Roza Bal ("The Site of the Honored Tomb")."
(http://www.tombofjesus.com/Welcomeall.htm)

Tombmaster further adds:

"This site, and the information it contains, is NOT the property of any particular belief or ism or organization, nor is the idea of a post-crucifixion life of Jesus the invention of any ONE individual."
(http://www.tombofjesus.com/Welcomeall.htm)

But he confessed in other places his religious affliation:

"It is SHAMEFUL that a man who claims to have been BORN an Ahmadi DOES NOT see the significance of Imam Mahdi! If that's what it means to be born an Ahmadi, THEN I AM GLAD that I was not born one, and that I converted LATER!!" (source: posting of 9/9/2000 on Lahore Ahmadiyya Message Board) "Because I just happen to believe like the Ahmadis believe: That Hazrat Ahmad was a *true* prophet of God who cannot be placed in such categories." (source: posting of 02/11/2000 on Lahore Ahmadiyya Message Board)

"Let us "suppose" that I am a black Ahmadiyya. What the HELL do I CARE what some Punjabi Pakistan feels about me? I created my website, for instance, WITHOUT their help OR permission. And the Ahmadiyyan leader (or so I hear) has lent his personal approval to the website." (source= posting of 6/6/2000 on Lahore Ahmadiyya Message Board)

Now the cat is out of the bag. Anyway....

All Qadiani followers (Lahori as well as Qadianis) believe that Jesus Christ (Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam AS) died and buried in Kashmir. What is the basis for this belief? Of course, because your founder, your prophet, your promised messiah, your imam mahdi etc. etc. Mirza Ghulam A Qadiani, said so. Am I right?
Tombmaster says:

"The significance of Hazrat Ahmad is very clear, and is also admitted by anybody who reads about and understands the history of the theory of a post-crucifixion life of Jesus: Hazrat Ahmad is the recognized *first* person who presented a coherent and unified exposition of this theory. Every Jesus-in-India writer recognizes this. He uncovered the works of Mulla Nadri and others; he used his powerful spiritual AND rational gifts, collecting information from Muslim, Hindu, Buddhists and other sources, including medical books of history, oral history, written history, etc., and he pulled this all together in book form and in a coherent manner. *Nobody* in human history had done that before him. This is why he is entitled to be recognized as that person who the Prophet Muhammad stated would "break the cross.""
(source: posting of 9/9/2000 on Lahore Ahmadiyya Message Board)

Has any Qadiani ever analysed the writings of Mirza Ghulam, to know what exactly he had written about the site of burial of Jesus? I am sure none of you had done that, and if you have then they are all accessory to a massive deception campaign, or else delibrately avoiding to face the truth.

Now let me tell you what I discovered in the writings of Mirza Ghulam. You are of course free to agree or disagree with me, but please, please, only after you have verified the quotes that I have given. My task is nothing but to convey the message, after that it is between you and Allah.
In his various books, Mirza Ghulam A. Qadiani, had given three different locations for the Grave of Jesus. Which one is correct?

1. Jesus AS buried in Al-Khaleeli (Gulailee).

In 1891 Mirza wrote a huge volume, Izala Auham, which ran upto 948 pages. In the second volume of this book, he wrote a detailed, mind boggling explanation trying to prove that Jesus was not taken physically to heavens (as the Muslims believe), but that he was taken down from the cross, went to his native place, Al-Khalil, died and buried there. He writes:

1. "This is true that Maseeh went to his native place, and died there, but this is not true that the same body which was buried, became alive again..... verse 3 chapter I of Acts is a testimony about the natural death of Jesus that took place in Al-Khaleeli. After this death, Maseeh was visible to his students as KASHF (vision) for 40 days." (Izala-e-Auham, Roohani Khazain vol.3 p.353-354)
   
2. Grave of Jesus in Quds

However, 3 years later, in 1894, Mirza changed his story. In his other book, Atmam-e-Hujjat (Roohani Khazain volume 8) he once again tried to prove that Eisa Ibne Maryam AS is dead. In an attempt to prove that, he gave the testimony of one of his rare Arab Disciple, Molvi Mohammed Al-Saeedi Trabilisi Al-Shaami. He wrote:

"This has to be admitted that Hazrat Eisa is also dead, and interestingly enough the grave of Hazrat Eisa is also in Syria and for further clarity, in the footnote, I include the testimony of My brother, My lover in Allah, Molvi Mohammad Al-Saeedi Trablisi. He is a resident of Tripoli, in the Country of Syria and in his area is the Grave of Hazrat Essa AS (Jesus). If you say that Grave is a fake, then you must provide the proof of this fake, and prove that when this fraud took place. And in this event we will not be sure about the graves of any prophet and trust will be lost, and we will have to say that all those burial places are fake." (Atmam E Hujat, Page: 18-19, Roohani Khazain vol.8 p.296-297, dated 1894)

Letter of Molvi Mohammed Al-Saeedi Trabilisi:

"O Hazrat Maulana & My Imam. Assalamo alaikum wa rehmatullah wa barakaatohu. I pray that may Allah give you cure (I recieved this letter of Shaami Saheb during my illness) Whatever you have asked about the Grave of Eisa alaihe assalam and other events, thus I am writing to you in detail, and that is this: Hazrat Eisa alaih assalam was born in Bait-ul-Lehm and between Bait-ul-Lehm and Quds there is a distance of thirty miles and the Grave of Hazrat Eisa alaihe assalam is in the Country of Quds, and is present till now, and there is a Church built on it, and that church is the largest church of all churches, and inside it is the Grave of Hazrat Eisa and in the same church is the Grave of Maryam, the truthful. And both graves are separate." (Atmam-ul-Hujjat, Roohani Khazain vol.8 p.299)

That seems to settle the matter. As far as Mirza Saheb was concerned, Jesus was dead and his grave was in al-Quds.

1. Jesus' Grave in Kashmir: However 8 years later, Mirza changed the story once again. Now he started propagating his new theory: Jesus is buried in Kashmir.
   
   "It is proved with certianity that Essa AS (Jesus) migrated to Kashmir. After this Allah liberated him with his blessing and he kept on living there for a long time until he died and was included among the deads. And his burial place is still in the city of Srinagar (Tomb of Yus Asif)" (Al-Huda, 12 June 1902, Page 109)
   "I have been informed about the grave of Eisa (in Kashmir)." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.358, 361) "The grave of Jesus is in Kashmir." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p. 320, Nuzool-e-Maseeh, printed in 1909, after the death of Mirza)

So now we have three different statements of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani regarding the grave of Jesus. My question to Qadianis is which is the correct one? Al-Khalil or Quds or Kashmir?

Wassalam on those who follow the hidayah
Dr. Syed Rashid Ali
P O Box 11560
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United Arab Emirates.net rasyed@emirates.net.ae
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