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    Citazione Originariamente Scritto da demos77
    Uno a caso .Assuntina Morresi è professore associato di Chimica Fisica all'Università di Perugia. Ha svolto attività di ricerca presso il CSIC (Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Cientificas) a Madrid e alla Technische Universitat (a con i due puntini sopra) di Braunschweig (Germania). Ha descritto gli effetti negativi della pillola abortiva su Pubmed e altre riviste scientifiche.
    Su Pubmed non può aver descritto niente.... Non è una rivista....All'occhio con le palle....

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    Il dott. Francesco D'Agostino, presidente del Comitato nazionale di bioetica, che non è un pinco pallino, pur non arrivando a condannare del tutto l’uso della pillola abortiva, ha osservato che, contrariamente a quanto possa apparire a prima vista, la pillola non è affatto sicura per la salute delle donne, ma anzi comporta dei rischi oggettivi.
    La pillola abortiva (eticamente) si condanna oppure no. Tertium non datur....

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    Citazione Originariamente Scritto da schifato
    ...ED ALLA FINE METTERE IL BAMBINO MORTO IN UN SACCHETTO E BUTTARLO VIA!!!!
    IO DICO MEGLIO IN OSPEDALE SOTTO CONTROLLO MEDICO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Così poi quelli del movimento per la vita gli fanno anche il funerale.....

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    Citazione Originariamente Scritto da lauralaura
    Caro schifato, devi sapere che anche la RU486 si prende in ospedale e sotto controllo medico. Smettetela di ripetere come una pappardella tutto quello che vi dice il prete.
    SEI DISINFORMATA!! LA RU486 SI PRENDE ANCHE NELLE MURA DELLA PROPRIA ABITAZIONE, BASTA UNA SEMPLICE PRESCRIZIONE DA PARTE DEL MEDICO CURANTE!!!

    QUELLO CHE SEGUE, PURTROPPO APPARTIENE AL PRESENTE:
    DONNE MORTE A SEGUITO UTILIZZO DELLA PILOLA ABORTIVA, IL NUMERO CRESCE IN MANIERA SBALORDITIVA E PERDIPIU' MOLTE DONNE SONO DECEDUTE A NCHE DOPO UN ANNO DALL' UTILIZZO DELLA PILLOLA ABORTIVA.PROVOCA INOLTRE PROBLEMI FISICI ALLE DONNE MOLTE DELLE QUALI POI NON POSSONO AVERE PIU FIGLI O PURTROPPO SI AMMALANO DI CANCRO ALLE OVAIE O ALL' UTERO.
    E' SCRITTO IN LINGUA ORIGINALE, IN INGLESE VISTO CHE LA FONTE E' IL MAGGIOR ISTITUTO SCIENTIFICO DEL MONDO "LIFE IUSSUES INSTITUTE"
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    RU 486 Deaths

    RU 486 Has Killed Twelve Women
    by J.C. Willke, MD
    Since it has become generally used in the western world, the French abortion pill, RU 486, has now resulted in the death of seven women. This fact speaks for itself in regard to the so-called safety of the drug. Let me briefly describe each victim.
    1. The first published case occurred in France, April 1991, but was widely dismissed because it was reported she had all three contraindications to the use of the drug. She had been a heavy smoker, had heart problems and high blood pressure. Over the next several years, there were no deaths reported, possibly because the drug was only beginning to be introduced in many countries.
    2. In September 2001, a Canadian woman died from septic shock eight days after taking the pills. This was a result of a Clostridium infection in the uterus, possibly due to retained parts of the baby. A second woman, 21 years old, sustained a serious heart attack but survived. As a result, the Canadian trials of RU 486 were temporarily halted.
    3. On September 12, 2001, a 38- year-old woman in Tennessee died five days after taking RU 486. She had a tubal pregnancy which, according to a warning from the Food and Drug Administration, RU 486 will not abort. This abortion facility apparently failed to make the proper diagnosis, even though they did an ultrasound. According to her boyfriend, they said, “We don’t see any fetus in the uterus, but that is not unusual. This is an early pregnancy.” She returned home and developed severe pain and bleeding, which worsened over several days. She placed multiple calls to the abortion facility, as her condition worsened, but was advised that her symptoms were normal and routine. She was finally hospitalized and received legitimate medical care, but died from massive peritonitis from the ruptured tube. A major malpractice lawsuit was subsequently filed.

    4. Holly Patterson, an 18-year-old girl in California, died September 17, 2003, after taking RU 486. The Planned Parenthood death center did not educate her on how to administer the medication, did not have her signature on a consent form and failed to report her death as an unusual occurrence. After taking the medication, she returned to a local hospital twice. The first time she was given painkillers and sent home. The second time, she went to the hospital where she died. The Alameda County, California Coroner’s official autopsy report stated that she died because the drugs did not produce a complete abortion. The retained parts developed a massive systemic infection, septic shock and resulted in death.
    5. Rebecca Tell Berg, a sixteen-year- old Swedish girl, died June 3, 2003 from an RU 486 abortion. In this case, she apparently received good medical care. She was seven weeks pregnant. One week after being examined by a gynecologist, she returned to the hospital and was given three RU 486 abortion pills, a full dose. Two days later she returned and was given two Cytotec pills. After a few hours, she was in severe pain, bleeding heavily and was given pain medication. After being kept in the hospital for eight hours, she passed a “big blob” and was sent home. Days later, still bleeding and in pain, her boyfriend encouraged her to go to the hospital. However, hospital officials told her she could bleed for as long as two weeks, so she stayed home. During this time, a medical professional, inquiring about her condition, made at least one phone call. Eight days after the abortion she was found dead in the shower. A coroner’s report confirmed that Rebecca bled to death. It noted, however, that the doctors had given an appropriate dosage, followed proper procedure and “followed all the rules.”

    6,7. The British government, in January 2004, announced that two women had died after taking RU 486 for abortions. No details of the deaths or the victims have been given except that they died after taking RU 486. The deaths were described as “suspected fatal reactions associated with the use of RU 486.” When questioned, the health minister noted there might have been other causes for the deaths, but provided no evidence other than the use of RU 486.

    8. In November 2004 the US Food and Drug Administration announced that another woman had died from taking RU 486. The FDA said that they had reports of 17 potentially fatal cases of tubal pregnancy that had taken the drug. They noted that heavy bleeding was a problem in 8%, lasting as long as thirty days. They have records of 72 cases needing blood transfusions. They also reported seven near fatal cases of severe sepsis (bacterial infections), which were treated successfully. Rather than take this dangerous drug off the market, which is what they would have done if this had been any other drug except an abortion drug, they have compromised by issuing a revised warning label detailing these potential serious problems.
    9. One of these women was Oriane Shevin, 34 from Sherman Oaks, California. She died June 14, 2005 an attorney and mother of two, the cause of death was sepsis, a blood infection.
    10. Hoa Thuy Tran, 21, a student teacher in Orange County, CA died in 2003. Her name was made public in October 2005 when her family filed a lawsuit against Danco and Planned Parenthood, the maker of RU 486. Her death was due to septic shock associated with the drug.
    On July 29, 2005, the US Food and Drug Administration confirmed that a total of five women in the US have died using the drug RU486. Note that we list three deaths above. This adds two more.
    11. March 2006 - US food and Drug Administration, one woman died in a Planned Parenthood center in Colorado.
    12. May 2006 - Center for Disease Control reported at a scientific meeting in Atlanta of a death from an abortion in which only the second drug, Cytotec, (misoprostol) was used vaginally along with laminaria being inserted.
    Concerned Women for America, a pro-life women’s group under the Freedom of Information Act, receive public documents from the FDA. These list over 600 adverse effects by women taking this drug. These included 220 cases of hemorrhage that were either life threatening or extremely serious, 71 of which required blood transfusions. In addition, 392 reports indicated women requiring surgery to repair damage resulting from the abortion including many under emergency conditions. As a result of this, many havepetitioned the FDA to remove this dangerous drug from the market before more women die.

    Short of death, the most serious concern is bleeding. Women who take RU 486 usually bleed for one or two weeks, with 10% bleeding more than one month. This leaves women exposed to infection for an extended period of time. The average woman loses four times the average blood from a standard surgical abortion. In European trials, at least one in every hundred women had to be hospitalized due to blood loss and needed a transfusion. One case illustrating this occurred during the official trials of RU 486 in the United States. A woman in Iowa almost died from hemorrhage from an incomplete RU 486 abortion. Multiple emergency blood transfusions saved her life. (This according to Dr. M. Loviere, Waterloo Courier, 9-24-95.)

    Much more detail could be given to the problems resulting from the use of this chemical abortion, including fetal deformity in babies delivered after failed use of these drugs. As a close observer of this issue from its beginning, I felt it was time to document these deaths and tell the world this is not a safe drug.

    May 2006
    CONTACT US
    Life Issues Institute, Inc
    1821 W. Galbraith Rd.
    Cincinnati, OH 45239
    Phone: 513.729.3600
    Email: info@lifeissues.org

    RU 486 Deaths

    RU 486 Has Killed Twelve Women
    by J.C. Willke, MD
    Since it has become generally used in the western world, the French abortion pill, RU 486, has now resulted in the death of seven women. This fact speaks for itself in regard to the so-called safety of the drug. Let me briefly describe each victim.
    1. The first published case occurred in France, April 1991, but was widely dismissed because it was reported she had all three contraindications to the use of the drug. She had been a heavy smoker, had heart problems and high blood pressure. Over the next several years, there were no deaths reported, possibly because the drug was only beginning to be introduced in many countries.
    2. In September 2001, a Canadian woman died from septic shock eight days after taking the pills. This was a result of a Clostridium infection in the uterus, possibly due to retained parts of the baby. A second woman, 21 years old, sustained a serious heart attack but survived. As a result, the Canadian trials of RU 486 were temporarily halted.
    3. On September 12, 2001, a 38- year-old woman in Tennessee died five days after taking RU 486. She had a tubal pregnancy which, according to a warning from the Food and Drug Administration, RU 486 will not abort. This abortion facility apparently failed to make the proper diagnosis, even though they did an ultrasound. According to her boyfriend, they said, “We don’t see any fetus in the uterus, but that is not unusual. This is an early pregnancy.” She returned home and developed severe pain and bleeding, which worsened over several days. She placed multiple calls to the abortion facility, as her condition worsened, but was advised that her symptoms were normal and routine. She was finally hospitalized and received legitimate medical care, but died from massive peritonitis from the ruptured tube. A major malpractice lawsuit was subsequently filed.

    4. Holly Patterson, an 18-year-old girl in California, died September 17, 2003, after taking RU 486. The Planned Parenthood death center did not educate her on how to administer the medication, did not have her signature on a consent form and failed to report her death as an unusual occurrence. After taking the medication, she returned to a local hospital twice. The first time she was given painkillers and sent home. The second time, she went to the hospital where she died. The Alameda County, California Coroner’s official autopsy report stated that she died because the drugs did not produce a complete abortion. The retained parts developed a massive systemic infection, septic shock and resulted in death.
    5. Rebecca Tell Berg, a sixteen-year- old Swedish girl, died June 3, 2003 from an RU 486 abortion. In this case, she apparently received good medical care. She was seven weeks pregnant. One week after being examined by a gynecologist, she returned to the hospital and was given three RU 486 abortion pills, a full dose. Two days later she returned and was given two Cytotec pills. After a few hours, she was in severe pain, bleeding heavily and was given pain medication. After being kept in the hospital for eight hours, she passed a “big blob” and was sent home. Days later, still bleeding and in pain, her boyfriend encouraged her to go to the hospital. However, hospital officials told her she could bleed for as long as two weeks, so she stayed home. During this time, a medical professional, inquiring about her condition, made at least one phone call. Eight days after the abortion she was found dead in the shower. A coroner’s report confirmed that Rebecca bled to death. It noted, however, that the doctors had given an appropriate dosage, followed proper procedure and “followed all the rules.”

    6,7. The British government, in January 2004, announced that two women had died after taking RU 486 for abortions. No details of the deaths or the victims have been given except that they died after taking RU 486. The deaths were described as “suspected fatal reactions associated with the use of RU 486.” When questioned, the health minister noted there might have been other causes for the deaths, but provided no evidence other than the use of RU 486.

    8. In November 2004 the US Food and Drug Administration announced that another woman had died from taking RU 486. The FDA said that they had reports of 17 potentially fatal cases of tubal pregnancy that had taken the drug. They noted that heavy bleeding was a problem in 8%, lasting as long as thirty days. They have records of 72 cases needing blood transfusions. They also reported seven near fatal cases of severe sepsis (bacterial infections), which were treated successfully. Rather than take this dangerous drug off the market, which is what they would have done if this had been any other drug except an abortion drug, they have compromised by issuing a revised warning label detailing these potential serious problems.
    9. One of these women was Oriane Shevin, 34 from Sherman Oaks, California. She died June 14, 2005 an attorney and mother of two, the cause of death was sepsis, a blood infection.
    10. Hoa Thuy Tran, 21, a student teacher in Orange County, CA died in 2003. Her name was made public in October 2005 when her family filed a lawsuit against Danco and Planned Parenthood, the maker of RU 486. Her death was due to septic shock associated with the drug.
    On July 29, 2005, the US Food and Drug Administration confirmed that a total of five women in the US have died using the drug RU486. Note that we list three deaths above. This adds two more.
    11. March 2006 - US food and Drug Administration, one woman died in a Planned Parenthood center in Colorado.
    12. May 2006 - Center for Disease Control reported at a scientific meeting in Atlanta of a death from an abortion in which only the second drug, Cytotec, (misoprostol) was used vaginally along with laminaria being inserted.
    Concerned Women for America, a pro-life women’s group under the Freedom of Information Act, receive public documents from the FDA. These list over 600 adverse effects by women taking this drug. These included 220 cases of hemorrhage that were either life threatening or extremely serious, 71 of which required blood transfusions. In addition, 392 reports indicated women requiring surgery to repair damage resulting from the abortion including many under emergency conditions. As a result of this, many havepetitioned the FDA to remove this dangerous drug from the market before more women die.

    Short of death, the most serious concern is bleeding. Women who take RU 486 usually bleed for one or two weeks, with 10% bleeding more than one month. This leaves women exposed to infection for an extended period of time. The average woman loses four times the average blood from a standard surgical abortion. In European trials, at least one in every hundred women had to be hospitalized due to blood loss and needed a transfusion. One case illustrating this occurred during the official trials of RU 486 in the United States. A woman in Iowa almost died from hemorrhage from an incomplete RU 486 abortion. Multiple emergency blood transfusions saved her life. (This according to Dr. M. Loviere, Waterloo Courier, 9-24-95.)

    Much more detail could be given to the problems resulting from the use of this chemical abortion, including fetal deformity in babies delivered after failed use of these drugs. As a close observer of this issue from its beginning, I felt it was time to document these deaths and tell the world this is not a safe drug.
    May 2006
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    Life Issues Institute, Inc
    1821 W. Galbraith Rd.
    Cincinnati, OH 45239
    Phone: 513.729.3600
    Email: info@lifeissues.org

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    Citazione Originariamente Scritto da lauralaura
    Un relatore ad un certo punto ha tirato fuori un articolo dell'Avvenire dove si descriveva il farmaco in maniera apocalittica ed ha fatto notare come l'informazione scientifica debba essere fatta da esperti per esperti, non da giornali cattolici che tendono a supportare certe posizioni per motivi religiosi. Fate voi.
    Certamente è possibile eseguire un'operazione artifiziosa di questo tipo: selezionare i rari articoli che presentano casi di complicanze dopo l'assunzione della RSU (magari ben dopo il periodo di gravidanza stabilito) e farli prevalere sui grossi numeri della normalità. L'uso degli studi prospettici su grandi campioni è il solo modo corretto per valutare quanto possa o meno essere sicura la RSU486. Il resto sono balle.

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    SEI DISINFORMATA!! LA RU486 SI PRENDE ANCHE NELLE MURA DELLA PROPRIA ABITAZIONE, BASTA UNA SEMPLICE PRESCRIZIONE DA PARTE DEL MEDICO CURANTE!!!

    QUELLO CHE SEGUE, PURTROPPO APPARTIENE AL PRESENTE:
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    Tu dimostri di essere solo un propagandista poco intelligente. Mi sono fermato alla sola lettura del 1° caso di decesso. Se tu fossi andato oltre il titolo (ma non ne hai le capacità), avresti letto che la signora in questione aveva ben tre controindicazioni importanti all'assunzione della RSU 486. Ergo, non doveva assumerla. Ergo, la sua morte è dovuta o ad una prescrizione affrettata e superficiale o al fatto di aver taciuto le sue condizioni di salute (forte fumatrice, problemi cardiaci, alta pressione).

    Quello che dovremmo invece cercare di capire è su quante donne sane (ovvero in grado di assumere tale pillola) si sono verificati dei decessi. Attraverso studi prospettici e non retrospettivi, come quello riportato, che non dice molto.

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    SEI DISINFORMATA!!

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    Life Issues Institute, Inc
    1821 W. Galbraith Rd.
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    Phone: 513.729.3600
    Email: info@lifeissues.org
    il disinformato(re) sei tu, che non dai il nome delle "onorevoli della sinistra che si sono pentite di avere criticato Storace", come era il titolo del post prima che tu fossi costretto a cambiarlo.

    l' autore del testo e' di quelli che in nome della diritto alla vita ammazzano i medici abortisti?

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    Caro schifato se tua figlia viene messa incinta da un branco di stupratori che fa? Si tiene il figlio o ricorre alla RU486, che è un aborto ma meno doloroso?

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    il disinformato(re) sei tu, che non dai il nome delle "onorevoli della sinistra che si sono pentite di avere criticato Storace", come era il titolo del post prima che tu fossi costretto a cambiarlo.

    l' autore del testo e' di quelli che in nome della diritto alla vita ammazzano i medici abortisti?
    sei doppiamente disinformato!!!!NON SONO STATO IO AD APRIRE LA DISCUSSIONE ,BENSI' LO HA APRTO ALTRO ISCRITTO, NE QUINDI TANTOMENO SONO STATO IO A DARE IL TITOLO ALLA DISUSSIONE !!!!!!!!!!!
    HA APERTO LA DISUSSIONE E DATO IL TITOLO DEMOS77 NON IL SOTTOSCRITTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Caro schifato se tua figlia viene messa incinta da un branco di stupratori che fa? Si tiene il figlio o ricorre alla RU486, che è un aborto ma meno doloroso?
    NO, SE LEI VUOLE LA ACCOMPAGNO IN OSPEDALE PER ABORTIRE CON TUTTA LA DOVUTA ASSISTENZA MEDICA MA NON RISCHIO LA SUA VITA E LA SUA SALUTE FACENDOLE PRENDERE UNA PILLOLA A CASA...CHE ATTUALMENTE LA COMUNITA' SCIENTIFICA RITIENE MOLTO PERICOLOSA!!!!
    INOLTRE L'RU486 E' ENORMEMENTE PIU DOLOROSA IN QUANTO PROVOCA UN ABORTO SPONTANEO CON TUTTI GLI ANNESSI E CONNESSI COME RIPETUTO DALLA COMUNITA' SCIENTIFICA FAD ETC.....!!!!!!!!!

 

 
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