Stiamo vincendo

[soldier]

Il caos c'è stato a causa dell'imperialismo sovietico. La risposta americana ha fronteggiato il caos e ne ha ridotto gli effetti. Ora che il comunismo non esiste quasi più, si stanno ridimensionando anche molti regimi ispirati a quella perversa ideologia.

Purtroppo, finito l'imperialismo sovietico è ricominciato l'islamismo, sciagura storicamente ricorrente.

Ed ancora una volta, mentre le nazioni che hanno dato origine a questa nuova minaccia (Francia e Inghilterra) si defilano e si sottomettono a questa nuova invasione, rimangono solo gli USA a fronteggiare la minaccia mondiale.

Ed i vigliacchi europei fanno di nuovo il doppio gioco. Quando, alla fine della terza guerra mondiale, gli USA saranno di nuovo vincitori, riscopriremo che tutti eravamo resistenti e che abbiamo liberato l'Europa dagli islamici, con un piccolo aiuto americano, ma che non si permettano di tediarci troppo a lungo con il loro contributo !

ma tu senza un padrone non sai proprio vivere eh ?

a proposito, mi documenti la storiella dell'Arabia Saudita "stato laico" ?

[luca18]

Senti uomo sigaretta guardati un po' sta tabellina redatta dal Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), fonte wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_sa...Iraq_1973-1990


Vendite di armi all' Iraq dal 1973 al 1979
USA 0%


Vendite di armi all' Iraq dal 1980 al 1982
USA 0%

Vendite di armi all' Iraq dal 1983 al 1988
USA 0.8%

Vendite di armi all' Iraq 1989 & 1990
USA 0


Totale dal 1973 al 1990
USA 0.5%

e la marmotta che incarta la cioccolata dov'è ??
na gli usa che sono uno tra i + grandi produttori di armi al mondo .. ma dove li vendono ???

[Amati75]

e la marmotta che incarta la cioccolata dov'è ??
na gli usa che sono uno tra i + grandi produttori di armi al mondo .. ma dove li vendono ???

E che centra che siano fra i piu' grandi produttori di armi al mondo?
Mica per questo le vendono in tutto il mondo.
Sono anche i primi consumatori di petrolio al mondo, ma mica per questo lo comprano da tutti i paesi produttori.

Certo che in quanto a ragionamenti "solidi" non scherzi eh...

[Georges]

amatina,il solito disinformatore ,la tabella si riferisce alle armi convenzionali non alle armi chimiche,biologiche che gli usa hanno venduto all Iraq,quelle di cui parlavo io,e poi Francia e germania non c entrano un cazzo.
L iraq si riforni dal vasto arsenale degli ex Urrs per le armi convenzionali...


riprovaci amatina.hahahahahah!!!

[Georges]

19831,89877974521587734,27419842,8578831,065601164,92719852,6017001,0369321164,49419862,663251918970863,99719872,719214887301141574,12119881,2023553011251181962,2971983–8813,9403,1824,9522003921,44424,11 01983–8857.8%13.2%20.5% 0.8% 1.6% 6.0%100%19891,31911323047671,569199053728100033851


riguardo alle armi convenzionali,in grassetto quelle degli USA

[Amati75]

amatina,il solito disinformatore ,la tabella si riferisce alle armi convenzionali non alle armi chimiche,biologiche che gli usa hanno venduto all Iraq,quelle di cui parlavo io,e poi Francia e germania non c entrano un cazzo.
L iraq si riforni dal vasto arsenale degli ex Urrs per le armi convenzionali...


riprovaci amatina.hahahahahah!!!

Vedi che perseguiti ad essere superficiale... e dire che al link di wikipedia e' pure specificato nelle note:


As a comment on these statistics, SIPRI's data are founded on open sources (newspapers, journals, declassified documents etc) "The type of open information used by SIPRI cannot provide a comprehensive picture of world arms transfers. Published reports often provide only partial information, and substantial disagreement among reports is common. Order and delivery dates, exact numbers, types of weapon and the identity of suppliers or recipients may not always be clear"

Non a caso alla fine dell' entrata vi e' specificato:

"During the controversy over the April 2003 invasion of Iraq by the United States and its allies, the issue of US arms exports to Iraq became important politically; opponents of military action frequently mentioned US support for Iraq during the Iraq-Iran War (despite its official neutrality) as an argument that US motivations for invading Iraq were not humanitarian, whereas supporters were quick to recall French, Soviet (and by extension, Russian), Chinese, as well as German sales of conventional and unconventional weapons to the regime."

Mi fa piacere che stai cercando di rispondermi in modo piu' effettivo, pero' evidentemente ancora devi sforzarti di piu'...

[Razza Piave]

Ma non erano gli USA che dissero che Saddam e Osama erano culo e camicia?

[Amati75]

In the early 1970s, Saddam Hussein ordered the creation of a clandestine nuclear weapons program.[9] Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs were assisted by a wide variety of firms and governments in the 1970s and 1980s.
As part of Project 922, German firms such as Karl Kobe helped build Iraqi chemical weapons facilities such as laboratories, bunkers, an administrative building, and first production buildings in the early 1980s under the cover of a pesticide plant. Other German firms sent 1,027 tons of precursors of mustard gas, sarin, tabun, and tear gasses in all. This work allowed Iraq to produce 150 tons of mustard agent and 60 tons of Tabun in 1983 and 1984 respectively, continuing throughout the decade. Five other German firms supplied equipment to manufacture botulin toxin and mycotoxin for germ warfare. In 1988, German engineers presented centrifuge data that helped Iraq expand its nuclear weapons program. Laboratory equipment and other information was provided, involving many German engineers. All told, 52% of Iraq's international chemical weapon equipment was of German origin. The State Establishment for Pesticide Production (SEPP) ordered culture media and incubators from Germany's Water Engineering Trading.[15]

France built Iraq’s Osirak nuclear reactor in the late 1970s. Israel claimed that Iraq was getting close to building nuclear weapons, and so bombed it in 1981. Later, a French company built a turnkey factory which helped make nuclear fuel. France also provided glass-lined reactors, tanks, vessels, and columns used for the production of chemical weapons. Around 21% of Iraq’s international chemical weapon equipment was French. Strains of dual-use biological material also helped advance Iraq’s biological warfare program.

Italy gave Iraq plutonium extraction facilities that advanced Iraq’s nuclear weapon program. 75,000 shells and rockets designed for chemical weapon use also came from Italy. Between 1979 and 1982 Italy gave depleted, natural, and low-enriched uranium.

Swiss companies aided in Iraq’s nuclear weapons development in the form of specialized presses, milling machines, grinding machines, electrical discharge machines, and equipment for processing uranium to nuclear weapon grade.

Brazil secretly aided the Iraqi nuclear weapon program by supplying natural uranium dioxide between 1981 and 1982 without notifying the IAEA. About 100 tons of mustard gas also came from Brazil.

The United States exported $500 million of dual use exports to Iraq that were approved by the Commerce department. Among them were advanced computers, some of which were used in Iraq’s nuclear program. The non-profit American Type Culture Collection and the Centers for Disease Control sold or sent biological samples to Iraq under Saddam Hussein up until 1989, which Iraq claimed it needed for medical research. These materials included anthrax, West Nile virus and botulism, as well as Brucella melitensis, which damages major organs, and clostridium perfringens, which causes gas gangrene. Some of these materials were used for Iraq's biological weapons research program, while others were used for vaccine development.[16]

The United Kingdom paid for a chlorine factory that was intended to be used for manufacturing mustard gas. The government secretly gave the arms company Matrix Churchill permission to supply parts for the Iraqi supergun, precipitating the Arms-to-Iraq affair when it became known.

Many other countries contributed as well; since Iraq's nuclear program in the early 1980s was officially viewed internationally as for power production, not weapons, there were no UN prohibitions against it.
An Austrian company gave Iraq calutrons for enriching uranium. The nation also provided heat exchangers, tanks, condensers, and columns for the Iraqi chemical weapons infrastructure, 16% of the international sales. Singapore gave 4,515 tons of precursors for VX, sarin, tabun, and mustard gasses to Iraq.
The Dutch gave 4,261 tons of precursors for sarin, tabun, mustard, and tear gasses to Iraq.
Egypt gave 2,400 tons of tabun and sarin precursors to Iraq and 28,500 tons of weapons designed for carrying chemical munitions.
India gave 2,343 tons of precursors to VX, tabun, Sarin, and mustard gasses. Luxembourg gave Iraq 650 tons of mustard gas precursors.
Spain gave Iraq 57,500 munitions designed for carrying chemical weapons. In addition, they provided reactors, condensers, columns and tanks for Iraq’s chemical warfare program, 4.4% of the international sales.
China provided 45,000 munitions designed for chemical warfare. Portugal provided yellowcake between 1980 and 1982.
Niger provided yellowcake in 1981.[18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_an...ss_destruction

Come vedi i conti tornano e non si discostano molto dalle proporzioni fornite dal SIPRI.

[Amati75]

Ma non erano gli USA che dissero che Saddam e Osama erano culo e camicia?

Si, e anche se nnon e' molto chiaro vi sono moti legami provati fra terroristi internazionali, siano essi di AQ o altre sigle che hanno trovato rifugio nell' Iraq di Saddam a fine anni 90.

Questo e' un reportage del 1999 dei legami fra Saddam & Al Qaeda:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWFWC...eature=related

Quindi non so se vi era un legame nel 2001-2003, ma vi era stato prima.

[Georges]

senti ma visto e considerato che tutti finanziarono saddam e a nessuno interessava sapere che saddam gasava i kurdi,visto che i finanziamenti continuarono anche dopo il 1988,anche da parte degli usa,allora xke l iraq e stato invaso dagli USA nonostante il veto dell onu e di mezzo mondo,nonostante le armi di massa non c erano e non dirmi che saddam fece credere a tutti di averle!
MA SI INVADE UN PAESE SU SUPPOSIZIONI?