Uranio impoverito

[Metabo]

Io conosco un militare che ha mi sembra, ma visto che la voce è passata per varie amici forse è stata un pò ingigantita, cinquanta?! volte la percentuale di radiottività consentita, sempre per essere stato nei balcani.

[Boba Fett]

Leggete qua:

4. Conclusioni e proposte

La Commissione prende atto dell’impossibilita` di stabilire, sulla base delle attuali conoscenze scientifiche, un nesso diretto di causa-effetto
(nesso di causalita`) tra le patologie oggetto dell’inchiesta ed i singoli fattori di rischio individuati nel corso delle indagini, con particolare riferimento agli effetti derivanti dall’uranio impoverito e dalla dispersione nell’ambiente di nanoparticelle di metalli pesanti. Al tempo stesso, vista la obiettiva sussistenza di fenomeni morbosi anche in riferimento alla operativita` di altre concause, legate in tutto o in parte ai contesti fortemente degradati ed inquinati dei teatri operativi in cui ha operato il personale militare italiano, ritiene che il verificarsi dell’evento costituisca di per se´ elemento sufficiente (criterio di probabilita`) a determinare il diritto per le vittime delle patologie e per i loro familiari al ricorso agli strumenti indennitari previsti dalla legislazione vigente (compreso il riconoscimento della causa di servizio e della speciale elargizione) in tutti quei casi in cui l’Amministrazione militare non sia in grado di escludere un nesso di causalita`. Esprime il concreto auspicio che si prosegua sulla via dell’effettiva semplificazione delle procedure amministrative per l’accesso ai suddetti istituti, anche mediante una piu` ampia opera di informazione e di sensibilizzazione tanto nei confronti dei cittadini che delle istituzioni interessate.

http://www.senato.it/service/PDF/PDF...=BGT&id=298458


Ecco perché hanno risarcito quel militare, altro che ammissione di colpevolezza. Il documento è del 12 febbraio 2008.

[ziobob]

Per un approfondimento serio:
http://www.stefanomontanari.net/images/pdf/sindrome.pdf
Gli americani lo sanno dal 1978 Base militare di Eglin Fl.
p.s. lasciate perdere Mandelli che è in conflitto di interessi

[Boba Fett]

Per un approfondimento serio:
http://www.stefanomontanari.net/images/pdf/sindrome.pdf
Gli americani lo sanno dal 1978 Base militare di Eglin Fl.

Ma quale approfondimento, sono tutte supposizioni, illazioni prive di ogni verifica con la realtà dei fatti (peraltro non incolpa affatto l'uranio impoverito).

p.s. lasciate perdere Mandelli che è in conflitto di interessi

La commissione Mandelli si è limitata a confrontare il numero di tumori riscontrati dai reduci del Kosovo con la media italiana e l'incidenza è risultata la metà di questa, c'è poco da conflittare...



PS: Poveretta la Gatti, se la cagano soltanto Beppe Grillo e Franca Rame.

[AntiSIM]

E' una caratteristica degli americanisti, che possiamo farci?

potrebbe anche essere una caratteristica di italiani che si sentono nazionalisti
e non se ne fregano di altri soldati
anche perchè ogni stato piange i propri morti

[Wento (POL)]

Ancora con questa palla del DU?

Eppure mi pareva di averti gia' postato tempo fa questa ed altre liste, rapporti e links (quasi tutti angloamericani) che testimoniano la pericolosita' del Depleted Uranium.
Vabbe'..repetite juvant:

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[Boba Fett]

Te lo dissi già a suo tempo Wento, la gran parte di questi lavori non c'entra nulla con la questione delle munizioni al DU e una buona fetta del resto non conclude affato che tali munizioni siano responsabili di determinate patologie riscontrate dalle popolazioni o dai reduci, senza contare che molti di questi sono citati anche in quelli da me riportati (per esempio i minatori delle miniere di uranio).

Ma soprattutto sei tu a dover citare gli studi più significativi, prima di tutto riportando dei link funzionanti, e commentandoli nel merito.
Io l'ho fatto ora mi aspetto la tua parte.

[Wento (POL)]

Vorrei ricordare Karen Parker,avvocato USA che ha portato l'ONU a condannare l'uranio "impoverito" come arma disumana nel 1996.

Quindi riporto alcuni degli scienziati che testimoniano la pericolosita' dell'DU:

- Leonard A. Dietz (americano)
http://www.gulfweb.org/ngwrc/Shays/dietz.htm

- Charles L. Hyder (americano)
http://www.wippfast.com/main.htm

- Michio Kaku (giapponese)
http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/kaku.htm

- Rosalie Bertell (canadese)
http://www.ratical.org/radiation/bertell_book.html

- Gordon Edwards (americano)
http://www.ccnr.org/nfb_uranium_0.html

- Wolfgang Kohnlein (tedesco, sta in Australia)
http://www.foe.arc.net.au/kohnlein/kohnlein.html

- Asaf Durakovic (di origine croata, residente in America)
http://www.gulfwarvets.com/du4.htm

[Boba Fett]

Voglio dire, sono capace anche io di andare su pubmed.gov, cercare "depleted uranium" e scaricare tutta la lista di pubblicazioni...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

[Wento (POL)]

[quote=Boba Fett;9293079]

Te lo dissi già a suo tempo Wento, la gran parte di questi lavori non c'entra nulla con la questione delle munizioni al DU e una buona fetta del resto non conclude affato che tali munizioni siano responsabili di determinate patologie riscontrate dalle popolazioni o dai reduci, senza contare che molti di questi sono citati anche in quelli da me riportati (per esempio i minatori delle miniere di uranio).

No, mi rispondesti che li avresti controllati, se lo hai fatto dovresti ricordare, alcuni direttamente, altri indirettamente, sono tutti collegati al D.U.

Ma soprattutto sei tu a dover citare gli studi più significativi, prima di tutto riportando dei link funzionanti, e commentandoli nel merito.
Io l'ho fatto ora mi aspetto la tua parte.[/

Bhe i titoli dei testi e le pagine sono riportate corettamente, tanto dovrebbe bastare per una ricerca anche in internet.
Purtroppo i link si sono corrotti a causa della mia copiatura errata su documento word... vedro' di ripristinarli... ma il risultato non cambia, il Depleted Uranium U238 e' TRE voltepericoloso:
1)per la sua tossicita' chimica,
2)per la sua emissione di radiazioni a bassa intensita' 3) per l'IGNORANZA su questo materiale usato senza avvertenze di pericolosita' anche nell'edilizia CIVILE, nell'industria CIVILE, perfino in oggetti domestici che poi vengono buttati in discarica a cielo aperto o, peggio, inceneriti... con le debite conseguenze